WaPo Columnist Calls Gun Rights Activists Terrorists.
Is the NRA a terrorist organization?
I can see how you would think that. You know, if you were a retard. Continuing:
By George W. Bush’s standard — you’re either with us or against us in the fight against terrorism — NRA chief Wayne LaPierre should be just a few frequent-flier miles short of a free ticket to Gitmo right about now. Seems he and the rest of the gun lobby are fighting for terrorists’ right to buy firearms.
Got that? Send them to Gitmo. And NRA wants terrorists to have guns. I can see how you would think that. You know, if you were a retard. Continuing:
The Bush administration urged Congress to pass a law barring people on the terrorist watch list from buying explosives and guns. The gun lobby objected. Now the Obama administration is urging Congress to pass the same legislation, and the gun lobby continues to object.
Probably because in this country we do not restrict one’s civil liberties without due process of law. And, of course, given that babies and US senators have shown up on the list (that you can’t look at or question), I’m guessing it’s a bit of a deficient measure of who is and isn’t a terrorist.
And it won’t stop any nefarious plotters from getting guns if they want them.
May 6th, 2010 at 11:00 am
All they have to do is conduct hearings and have the American Citizen or naturalized citizen on the list declared unfit for gun ownership. Shouldn’t be to much work since most of the people on the list are foreign nationals, who already can’t buy guns in the US.
But then involving the courts with their radical ideas about preserving the rights protected under the Constitution isn’t something the grabbers are interested in.
And really besides Maj. Hansan, what terror attacks on US soil have involved guns? And Hasan wouldn’t have been denied since if he can’t fly and can’t buy guns due to terrorist links, someone would ask why he was given unfettered access to military bases and permitted to treat psychologically vulnerable soldiers.
May 6th, 2010 at 11:05 am
This demonstrates the false left-right paradigm. Most establishment, CFR politicians are pro-tyranny and pro-police state and anti-Bill of Rights and anti-liberty.
May 6th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Don’t forget, Milbank (Who’s _actually_ not _bad_ in the continuum of the press) is the idiot who dressed in orange to discuss Cheney’s hunting incident.
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/pubfiles/milbankpic.jpg
… The fact that Milbank is one of the “more reasonable” members of the national press should say all that’s needed about where the national press is.
May 6th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Remember, we had the government declare some nuts in Michigan as terrorists (Hutaree). The Government also wanted lists and names of every other organization they were involved with. So if you are a friend of or family member of someone who is involved or someway had any interaction with a militia that the government puts on a list without any due process, your rights could be taken away.
Can’t happen here? We thought that the government would never pass socialized health care of own a car company, either.
May 6th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The idea is actually not bad, since it would help people who got listed to get a due-process right to get off the bloody list. The real issue will be if they will try to deny you based on list protected as “state secret” from judicial oversight. Then we get Kafka’s “you’re guilty, but we’re not telling you of what”.
May 6th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
According to Milbank, The Times Square Bomb attempt was ALL BUSH’S FAULT! Obama can’t be blamed, even though his increased use of UAVs in Pakistan was the admitted motivation for it.
Nobody is asking if The Washington Compost is a terrorist organization, because everybody KNOWS that it is.
May 6th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Let me get this.
We will strip you of your Constitutional rights because we have decided to put you on a list.
Sounds a little like Venezuala, Cuba or China to me.
May 6th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
“Good…bad…I’m the guy with the gun”. –Ash
May 6th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Look at the big picture. They tell us (for years) that we’re in a war on terrorism. There is NO declaration of war or Letter of Marqui to wage war on non-state enemies (Article I, Section 8) with a stated enemy. So they keep allowing and importing Isalm into our country–the very group from whence terrorists come and find aid and comfort. Then part of their solution is to attack our Bill of Rights!
Article III,Section 3 defines this scenario as “treason”. Our real enemy is, and has been for years,in Washington D.C.
May 6th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
That’s Article I, Section 8…don’t know how that emoticon got there!
May 6th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
I vaguely recall that in this country the government prosecutors do not decide the guilt of the accused, exact a punishment, then require the defense to prove otherwise, to remove the punishment. In most cases I think it is quite the opposite.
How about we stick with what has worked so well for the past few centuries?
May 6th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
JKB: Actually, foreign nationals (on a non-immigrant visa) can buy firearms; they’re prohibited in general but there’s an exception if they have either a waiver from the AG or a hunting license.
Illegal aliens can’t get one on a 4473 in any case.
May 6th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Remember when liberalprogressivesocialists hated the No Fly/Watch List?
May 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Mr. Uncle, Sir, you are insulting retards by comparing them to GFWs.
May 7th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Certain anti-rights nuts have been proclaiming, for the past six+ months now, that anyone wearing an NRA ballcap or having an NRA bumper sticker on their car is a terrorist… I am not at all surprised that a similar meme has finally found its way into the lamestream media.
I am kind of surprised that yesterday constituted a “slow newsday”, but it must have been, considering that they were too busy peddling stereotypes and ad hominem attacks than, y’know, do their jobs and report on the news…
May 7th, 2010 at 10:05 am
These despots want the power to deny a fundamental, human right enumerated in the U.S. Constitution as “shall not be infringed” without ANY DUE PROCESS and based solely on “suspicion”. This legislation is UNCONSTITUTIONAL ON ITS FACE yet we actually have a so-called “republican” sponsoring this putrid trash.
Throw ALL INCUMBENTS out in November (unless they have a voting record so conservative it’s inpenetrable.)
TO MU: There is NOT an appeal process either to the denial of the right to buy a firearm nor to placement on the list. It is SOLELY AT THE DISCRETION OF ERIC HOLDER (or then current AG).
Go read David Codrea’s “Liberty Coalition tells Committee to focus on Terrorists and not Gun Owners” article. There’s a link to the Liberty Coalition’s
court brief which also informs about more of the provisions of the legislation.
May 7th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Only your enemy wants you disarmed.
The “war on terror” is a pretext to disarm us and control us. As Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin predicted and warned: “Those who give up liberty for safety will lose both and deserve neither.”