You know how I know you don’t know what you’re doing?
TSA takes nail clippers from soldiers? Soldiers who are armed with guns.
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November 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Why do we call it the transportation “security” agency again?
November 19th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I have a good friend who is an armed flight deck officer, they took his nail clippers too. Loaded Sig check, nail clippers not so fast.
November 19th, 2010 at 11:08 am
There was a car wreck in charlotte the other day where the women’s car ended up going through the fence and into a deep ditch somewhere on airport property.
They had to medivac her out, and when the helicopter crew tried to head over to the where she was after they landed, TSA said that they were not authorized to go over there and that they would have to get a TSA escort for them before they could proceeded. The pilot basicly gave the TSA guy a big “fuck you” and told him that they were based out of that airport and they had the credentials to go anywhere they wanted.
What a dumb ass tool…. first off, the TSA guy knew he was a first responder and knew that the woman was in serious trouble. Secondly, What in the hell would a TSA clown with a walkie talkie do if the was a terrorist with a bomb strapped to his chest… What the hell good would it do for him to have an escort as he walked across the field and climbed into the ditch?
These mall cops need to go!
http://gunmart.blogspot.com/2010/11/wait-until-thanksgiving.html
November 19th, 2010 at 11:13 am
OT, Uncle (hope you don’t mind):
Today is National Ammo Day.
Buy 100 rounds or more of your favorite gun food.
November 19th, 2010 at 11:17 am
When will this idiocy end?
November 19th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Very stupid considering nail clippers show as allowed on the TSA site.
November 19th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Holy shit it must have been tempting to butt-stroke and smash the hell out of the TSA drones.
When I was deployed none of us had ammo – except the ones who did have ammo in case terrorists decided to we were a tempting target.
Back in 90-91 airport screeners just stepped aside, nodded, and thanked us. Now the TSA hassles people – doesn’t seem like progress.
November 19th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Duuuude,
Thought you knew. This is standard practice when Soldiers deploy.
It’s not uncommon, for example, for chartered military flights to stop at a major civilian airport on the way out. You usually get a chance to get off the plane (leaving the firearms on board, guarded), so you can get snacks, magazines, or just to stretch your legs. When you get back to the plane, everyone is made to go through the TSA BS routine: take off your boots and belt, random selection for “wanding” and pat-down, discard any container with more than 3 oz. of liquid, check ID, etc. On my first deployment, one dude lost his Leatherman tool because it had a blade on it: he forgot he had it when he got off the plane, and wasn’t allowed to get back on the plane with it.
Put simply: Soldiers on a flight overseas to fight terrorists are treated by TSA as potential terrorists for purposes of “aviation security”. There are NO exceptions.
November 19th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
I’ve lost 2 good Gerbers that way. One going and one coming back. Still makes me angry.
November 19th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
What gets me (okay, one of the things) about the whole thing is this bit:
You would think a nearly 3-foot club would be a much more effective for taking over a plane than the 2-inch nail file on a set of nail clippers, wouldn’t you?
Also, a guy with nail clippers – even if he’s a highly trained and combat experienced soldier – is NOT going to be able to use those nail clippers to take over a plane with over 200 highly trained and combat experienced soldiers who are all armed with 3-foot clubs!!!
Glaring stupidity is an understatement.
November 19th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Don’t think of it as you losing it, think of it as a TSA goon gaining it at your expense. The good ol’USofA, exporting Freedom, manufacturing a police state. Who says we outsource everything?
November 19th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.
Soldier: Wanna see a demonstration of what we’re trained to do with this thing once we run out of bullets?
TSA: Are you threatening me?
Soldier: No, just gauging your capacity for intellectual curiosity.
I wonder if TSA agents or their management even consider how close they are to getting their bell rung by those that in no way and by no stretch of the imagination a threat to safety of the travelling public.
At this stage, I think the biggest identifying characteristic of someone that wants to cause a problem on an airplane is that he makes no protest to manhandling by a TSA agent. He’s got a higher purpose; a little junk handling is nothing compared to the reward he has coming. The rest of us just have a vacation to get to, or business to conduct, and the personal reward of these activities is overshadowed by the offense we’re suffering at the hand of the TSA. Mr Bought-a-round-trip-but-looking-forward-to-a-one-way-flight has the satisfaction of knowing that this is the last time he gets molested.
November 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Too bad the M4 doesn’t have an integral bayonet.
I’d pay money to see that.
November 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Same thing happened to me. Just after 911 plane stops in major airport. We get off the C17 to poop. The then fledgling TSA decides to search us before we got back on the plane. 30 MP’s loaded up and ready. I had a little knife in my pocket. I loved that knife about as much as I loved my SAW or my M9 I was carrying. They of course told me I couldn’t take it back on the C17 I just got off of. After the 30 of us stopped laughing they just let us thru holding their head in shame. In those early days they knew who was on the front lines. Now I think they are confused who is actually fighting every day Shedding their blood, sweat and tears.
November 19th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
“Soldier: No, just gauging your capacity for intellectual curiosity.”
I L’ed. O.L. How close they are to getting their bell rung? The bell of liberty must be rung from time to time…
Seems to me that, just now, a little bell-ringing might not be our worst alternative. Better to shake a little sense into their thick heads, than to wait and be forced to imprint it there permanently.
November 20th, 2010 at 7:51 am
I’d go over to Tam’s and read the first few comments (the ones from global village idiot) regarding the article.
November 20th, 2010 at 11:14 am
The job of the TSA is to condition citizens to succumb to tyranny…that is to “give up liberty for security”; a phrase which both Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin used in predicting that if we give up liberty for secuirty former we will deserve neither and lose both.
The TSA is the result of a classic Hegelian tactic…problem-reaction-solution. The government creats a problem, having facilitated a mass influx of Muslims, the very group from which terrorists come and then their solution is to attack the rights of American citizens.
November 20th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Surely they still require y’all to keep your bayonets with you, when you have your rifles with you?
As far as vertical butt strokes go, I betcha an old-fashioned steel-and-walnut M-1 is better at making the teeth fly, than these lightweight modern things.
November 21st, 2010 at 12:04 am
What did Einstein say about insanity and doing the same thing over and over?
Seems like the TSA operates just like Einstein feared a nut would operate.
And say, did the TSA note those rifles could be used to buttstroke someone? But they were not ‘weapons’? And with all that gear those soldiers could not smuggle aboard a bullet for those guns?
Stupid is as stupd does. And the new word for stupid is …. TSA!
November 21st, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Paul says “Stupid is as stupd does. And the new word for stupid is …. TSA!”
TSA employees may be stupid, but those giving them orders are carrying out and agenda to condition the American “sheeple” for tyranny. It msut be workin’– I just saw a poll that 65% think the tactics of reducing us to servitude by having us give up liberty for supposed security is good.
November 22nd, 2010 at 5:26 am
Since it’s “government” run..
Shouldn’t the employee list be available somewhere? Put the TSA Agents on some kind of “no shopping list” because they are “threats” to the Americans..
November 22nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Dave:
GlobalVillageIdiot obviously didn’t read through the RedState post that Tam linked to. The Soldier who experienced the events was describing what happened when his unit landed in Kansas, was forced to de-plane, and then had to re-board. The events described did not occur in Afghanistan, or even Kuwait.
Coming back from overseas, chartered military flights routinely stop at civilian airports. [Many do on the way out, too] If you are allowed to get off the plane, or are forced to do so (for cleaning or changing crews), then you have to go through the entire TSA routine to get back on the plane.
A different story, not having to do with TSA: Coming back through this airport in Ireland, our flight leader (both times I’ve been deployed) ordered us to leave our EMPTY pistol holsters on board, along with our weapons (which we couldn’t take with us onto the terminal, of course). Apparently, the civilian authorities at the Shannon Airport were concerned that civilian travelers might get the vapors if they see a bunch of Soldiers walking around with empty pistol holsters. Don’t know what danger a drop-leg holster might pose (I could chuck it a somebody, I suppose), but better safe than sorry, right?
November 22nd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
I am absolutely shocked that this has been tolerated.
Coming back from Desert Storm, my charter flight deplaned in Bangor Maine. If I remember correctly, rifles and MGs stayed on the plane, pistols stayed in their holsters. We were still pretty jacked up from the experience and not to f*cked with. Still had that habit of walking around with space between us and surrounding a threat like a wolf pack. Airport security basically cowered and got out of our way.
If one of them had touched me or taken my stuff, he would have been seriously hurt – and I was about the calmest Marine in the unit.