If the drug war ends how are people going to make their hard earned drug money… Economic disasters go both ways… If the feds legalize it then many people will be out of jobs. Not just the criminals.. What about all that extra law enforcement? Local, state and federal…
The drug war is so entwined into society that it will be difficult to extricate without a huge amount of pain for both sides. It would not matter if obama was pro legalization… He could not handle the job losses that would result.. Not too many presidents could.
There is also another unseen group besides cops and criminals. It crops up when you start factoring in what happens to all that money both spent by the dealers and that seized then spent by the cops… It is called legitimate business. Both sides spend most of their money on legal items. So the money from that trickles down eventually to the man on the street who works for said legal businesses.
The end result is people losing jobs and do not think for one second that the government is going to lower your taxes because they are collecting extra taxes from legalized drugs. No they will demand their usual amount..
The job losses will be made up somewhere else and I don’t care about them anyway. Nobody cared about me when I got downsized. You can tax the drugs and instead of putting addicts in jail you can send them to treatment. The drug war has filled our jails and bloated our city budgets its unaffordable anymore. No more swat teams hitting the wrong house or forfeiture laws. Its easier to get drugs than alcohol prohibition never has and never will work. Let people put whatever they want in there bodies and enforce it like you enforce alcohol.
Josh, portions of that Time article are bunk. For instance you can’t get a lifetime drug use stat down to a 4th of US numbers in 5 years without it being tiny in the first place.
My big issue is how do you deregulate drugs and not wind up with snake-oil salesmen again. I like the modern pharmacopoeia and it’s just as much a result of drug regulation as the War on Drugs is.
>My big issue is how do you deregulate drugs and not wind up with snake-oil salesmen again. I like the modern pharmacopoeia and it’s just as much a result of drug regulation as the War on Drugs is.
Heroin for addicts could be sold over the counter at the pharmacy, color-coded for strength, and with a $10 deposit on the needle to ensure it isn’t left out in some schoolyard or park.
Existing drug companies could produce the injections for a dollar a shot. There’s nothing complex or expensive about opiates.
Users could be required to registrar as a drug addict. Aside from the stigma and not being able to buy a firearm, there would be no other repercussions.
We could require addicts to inject themselves in some central location, That’s been tried and seems to work. But I think you’ll find that if the addict can keep the dope flowing for basically pocket lint, they’ll do so in private and even possibly be able to hold down a job. One can only do so much heroin, and freed from having to break into cars to steal radios for their wakeup shot, they’ll just sit around and watch the idiot box. A few tragic deaths from ODs will be hugely counteracted by a tremendous drop in crime, end of the loss of civil rights, loss in revenue for the smuggling cartel, etc.
March 22nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
If the drug war ends how are people going to make their hard earned drug money… Economic disasters go both ways… If the feds legalize it then many people will be out of jobs. Not just the criminals.. What about all that extra law enforcement? Local, state and federal…
The drug war is so entwined into society that it will be difficult to extricate without a huge amount of pain for both sides. It would not matter if obama was pro legalization… He could not handle the job losses that would result.. Not too many presidents could.
There is also another unseen group besides cops and criminals. It crops up when you start factoring in what happens to all that money both spent by the dealers and that seized then spent by the cops… It is called legitimate business. Both sides spend most of their money on legal items. So the money from that trickles down eventually to the man on the street who works for said legal businesses.
The end result is people losing jobs and do not think for one second that the government is going to lower your taxes because they are collecting extra taxes from legalized drugs. No they will demand their usual amount..
I see very little hope for legalization….
March 22nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
The job losses will be made up somewhere else and I don’t care about them anyway. Nobody cared about me when I got downsized. You can tax the drugs and instead of putting addicts in jail you can send them to treatment. The drug war has filled our jails and bloated our city budgets its unaffordable anymore. No more swat teams hitting the wrong house or forfeiture laws. Its easier to get drugs than alcohol prohibition never has and never will work. Let people put whatever they want in there bodies and enforce it like you enforce alcohol.
March 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
The job losses will be made up somewhere else … You mean like the current job losses that have been made somewhere else…
March 22nd, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Look up how decriminalizing ALL DRUGS has worked for Portugal, if you want hard facts and real world results.
March 22nd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Josh, portions of that Time article are bunk. For instance you can’t get a lifetime drug use stat down to a 4th of US numbers in 5 years without it being tiny in the first place.
My big issue is how do you deregulate drugs and not wind up with snake-oil salesmen again. I like the modern pharmacopoeia and it’s just as much a result of drug regulation as the War on Drugs is.
March 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Heroin for addicts could be sold over the counter at the pharmacy, color-coded for strength, and with a $10 deposit on the needle to ensure it isn’t left out in some schoolyard or park.
Existing drug companies could produce the injections for a dollar a shot. There’s nothing complex or expensive about opiates.
Users could be required to registrar as a drug addict. Aside from the stigma and not being able to buy a firearm, there would be no other repercussions.
We could require addicts to inject themselves in some central location, That’s been tried and seems to work. But I think you’ll find that if the addict can keep the dope flowing for basically pocket lint, they’ll do so in private and even possibly be able to hold down a job. One can only do so much heroin, and freed from having to break into cars to steal radios for their wakeup shot, they’ll just sit around and watch the idiot box. A few tragic deaths from ODs will be hugely counteracted by a tremendous drop in crime, end of the loss of civil rights, loss in revenue for the smuggling cartel, etc.
March 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Right Mischief and how does all that not substantially reregulate pharmaceuticals?
March 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 pm
This deregulates to a degree the possession and useage.
We’ll have to dismantle the rest of the bloat-ocracy in small baby steps.