No carry signs
In WI, people aren’t putting up ‘no carry’ signs for insurance reasons.
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December 5th, 2011 at 11:24 am
I keep asking our legislators for something like this, and they keep telling me “I don’t want to upset businesses.”
December 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Yup; it’s a feature, not a bug! Pretty brilliant when you think of it, but many businesses are too stupid to understand that they are throwing away free liability protections by posting.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Wizard, you do’n gotta talk to the legislators. Just hit ’em with a Sock-o’-Love once. Let the C-of-C’s precedent watchers take it from there. Law is like that now.
(Sock-o’-Love not admitted to bar in all states. I am not a remunerated endorser. No client privilege expressed or implied.)
December 5th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
heh. I’m waiting for the first person injured during a robbery of a non-weapon establishment to sue for endangerment through enforced helplessness.
December 5th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Kristopher – That has long been my argument about gun free zones. By establishments banning the carrying of weapons, more specifically firearms, they through their business decisions have decided to assume the role of protecting the purveyors of their establishment. In assuming that role they have also assumed liability for what happens within their four walls since they actively engaged in the disarmament of their customers.
Looks like Wisconsin actually put that bit of logic in action. Personally I find it on track, if company X says you can’t defend yourself here, company X is responsible for your safety. Makes sense to me.
December 5th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Somebody pointed that out when they were writing the bill. I believe the response was something like; “It sure does work that way. *Wink*”
Just like the guy in the article mentions at the end, you can’t carry and drink anyway, so posting on a bar (which at least one here in town has, and it’s a shame, they make great old fashioneds…) is pretty dumb in the long run.
December 5th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
I would love to have been in the room when people tavern league figured this out. It would have been the perfect time to bring up the “wait, you mean a sign on the door wouldn’t keep someone bad from bringing a gun in with them?”.
December 6th, 2011 at 9:04 am
This is the only way that I will support signs having the force of law.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I think the concept is good, but it’s a law and we all know that the intent of a law does not often survive a few rounds of court interpretations..
The immunity has not been tested in court yet, and there is some debate in the local legal community as to the wording and how that will actually protect property owners and businesses.