Gun rights v. property rights
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February 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
How about this. For those crying “property rights,” let’s try an experiment. You come over my house for coffee and I’m going to demand access to your vehicle to search it for Bibles and porno mags.
And let’s another variable. I’m going to post my property “no Bibles or porno mags,” as well, and if I find any of those prohibited items in your car, I’m going to call the cops, have them arrest you, and you will lose you’re right to read *anything* for the rest of your life.
That’s situation here in NC with the 2nd amendment. Not so appealing when you apply the same standard to the 1st, is it?
My car is my property no matter where it is parked, notwithstanding Paul Stam’s (RINO weenie in the NC legislator) bizzaro claim that my car become his property when it’s parked on his property.
February 12th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
There is no issue of property rights. It’s a red herring.
It is a mis-portrayal of concept that the position of property dictates ownership. It is fundamentally flawed, and easily shown to be such.
The mere location of my property (vehicle) doesn’t grant ownership. If this were the case, one could demand to enter my vehicle and take anything out of it. Or even decide to transfer my vehicle to another person.
February 13th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Note the phrase “publicly accessible parking lot”.
If the business in question controls actual access to the lot, the law does not apply.
February 13th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Exactly 1/2 mile east of my old office was a gun range. If I wanted to go shooting after work, I would have to park across the street from my office and walk over. If I parked in the “Company Owned” lot I walked 150 feet to the front door.(Assuming I got the closest spot. When I park across the street, I had to walk 100 feet. So I just started parking there every day! Some of these rules are just dumb. I worked for this company over 30 years, and have never had my truck/car tossed, nor has anyone else. Add to this that all the NRA stickered trucks/SUVs all park together.
Besides, would you really just give them the keys? I would just get in and drive off.
February 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Some of us work for the Dept. of Defense, so we’re screwed no matter how they write laws like these.
I’m so glad that the DoD learned from Ft. Hood that a ban on firearms only stops those who follow the rules….oh wait, nevermind.
February 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Mark and NUGUN, I agree with you. Calling this a “gun rights v. property rights” issue muddles the issue. It is a property rights v. property rights issue. In the legal contract signed between an employer and employee, where does the property rights of the employer end and the property rights of the employee begin. Is the inside of my car, in your lot, yours or mine? Can my employeer consent to the search of my car on his lot by police without asking my permission? These are the kinds of issues a law like this starts to tackle. It begins with the guns, but it’s not going to eng there.
February 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Laughingdog, ditto.
February 13th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
I want our Republican leaders (Beth Harwell) and the business money behind this (Fed-X and the Chamber) to understand that this issue pits property rights against property rights, too. The employee gets to work using the employee’s property, and may want a gun (property) during the commute back and forth to protect property and life. This is one of those issues that balances important liberty interests involving property, on both sides. Not just property vs guns as they want to frame it.