Gun laws at work
A PA trooper carries a gun at work. However, since he was involuntarily committed to a looney bin once, he can’t have a gun off duty. Or so ruled a local court. I’m not sure if he can lawfully have a gun while at work.
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December 30th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
“It is “rational” for Keyes to still be allowed to have a gun on-duty because then he is under the supervision and observation of superior officers and his fellow troopers, Ford Elliott concluded.
“Were [Keyes] to again fall into a depressive state with suicidal ideation, it would be much more likely to be discovered while he is on-duty and his superiors could then restrict his access to state police firearms,” she wrote.”
Unless he takes out those superiors <i)first, of course.
I’m sure the good residents of Pennsylvania are comforted that he is “less likely” to have a relapse while responding to a high-stress call for service than home relaxing in his easy chair.
December 30th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
We can’t trust you with a gun at home, but we can trust you to serve warrants, confiscate property, and detain people!
December 30th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
I’ve been a LEO for over 30 years. In most states a stay in a mental institution is an automatic bar to employment in Law Enforcement. If he can’t be trusted with a pistol when he’s off, how in the he** can he be trusted with one at work?
December 30th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Heck the TN Highway Patrol used to let felons be troopers, so why not?
December 30th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
>In most states a stay in a mental institution is an automatic bar to employment in Law Enforcement.
I didn’t RTFA, but I read an earlier article. They tried to fire him, but a lawsuit reinstated him.
The police claim that there is no light-duty or desk-duty where he won’t have access to firearms, but to no avail.
December 30th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Depends on the reason for the mental stay. Obviously the courts thought it was not a reason to stop him from being a cop. I hope he takes this Federal myself. Would be nice to see the feds squirm this one out.
December 31st, 2013 at 12:35 am
There’s no way under the law as written that he can possess a firearm. I’m pretty sure having one in a holster on your belt is considered possession.
Either change the law, strip him of his badge or give him his full rights.
December 31st, 2013 at 10:49 am
If he shoots himself with his service weapon, does that go on the federal stats sheet as “officer killed in the line of duty”? Suicide is the number one cause of police shootings, year after year. Understandable, maybe a minor point favoring the “proximity” argument, but you know that number will be used against us.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:10 am
In Texas if you have been to the nut house AND the doctor has not sighed off saying you are cured, you cannot get a CHL.
BUT, if you do have a shrink state so officially then you are ‘cured’ and good to go.
Just because you once had some mental problems does not make you some kind of permanently insane person.
January 1st, 2014 at 2:24 pm
It’s legal federally. The only federal bar that does not have an on duty exemption is the domestic violence one…
January 1st, 2014 at 3:16 pm
KM wrote “There’s no way under the law as written that he can possess a firearm.”
This is not correct. He may lawfully possess at all times under PA law, and lawfully possess on duty under federal law (there is a statutory exception for on-duty law enforcement officers to the possession prohibition). The issue is off-duty possession, which is legal under PA law but illegal under federal law. Because the judge in this case decided he doesn’t have the authority to expunge the record of mental health treatment, and because the federal mechanism to seek such expungement is unfunded, there is no available means by which he may regain his right to carry off-duty.