Even with the thumb safety off, a 1911 won’t do that because of the grip safety. I got into it with a guy about the thumb safety I use only if it’s out of the holster and leaving my hand. That trigger safety is just inadequate.
Holster or lack thereof was not the issue – having dangly stuffe hanging off your jacket above your holster was, though. Stuffing loaded gun into holster without looking didn’t help.
Note the fourth paragraph: “After he put the Glock back in his holster, Counceller tugged on his jacket. Within seconds, the Glock fired, striking him in the right leg.”
Glocks going off when holstered or being reholstering due to drawstrings getting caught in the trigger guard are a KNOWN ISSUE, and have been for many years.
Given that a Glock is basically a single action handgun with NO EXTERNAL SAFETY (the lever on teh trigger doesn’t count — not even my Tokarev will go off unless you press the trigger, which incidentally is how you deactivate the Glock’s “safety”.
If you’re not fine carrying a cocked and unlocked Tokarev because it’s “unsafe”, why carry a Glock?
{grabs Nomex undies for hordes of Glock owners to respond. . . }
Tam — haven’t measured it. Doesn’t change the point — the Glock trigger isn’t exactly a long pull like a Beretta 96D or a Sig 250.
The fact that THIS EXACT CONVERSATION has been going on for years now, and almost ALWAYS about Glocks, yet it didn’t occur when cops were pretty much universally carrying DA revolvers, nor am I aware of it happening to any significant extent with traditional DA/SA semis or even SA semis carried cocked and locked sort of illustrates the point.
As does reports of how, even with no drawstring involved, how a worn leather holster can induce a Glock to discharge if the holster gets in the trigger guard.
Again, I don’t hear of these problems with guns that do not have the Glock set up of “short pull, reasonably light pull, no external safety”.
“yet it didn’t occur when cops were pretty much universally carrying DA revolvers”
I heard the term “racing stripe” in regard to a safety strap pulling a trigger before the first Glock pistol was ever imported into this country. (And it was in reference to a DA revolver.)
“As does reports of how, even with no drawstring involved, how a worn leather holster can induce a Glock to discharge if the holster gets in the trigger guard.”
Most incidents like that happen when someone holsters with enough force to set off ANY trigger.
The thing that absolutely gets. up. my. nose. about incidents like this is that when it’s a Glock all the Glock haters rush over to apply their little dickbeaters to their keyboards and go “Rawr,GlockGlockGlcok unsafe!” which does nothing but further their (or their readers’) subconscious programming that “Well, I don’t carry a Glock, so I don’t have to worry about that!“…
March 10th, 2014 at 9:49 pm
Even with the thumb safety off, a 1911 won’t do that because of the grip safety. I got into it with a guy about the thumb safety I use only if it’s out of the holster and leaving my hand. That trigger safety is just inadequate.
March 10th, 2014 at 10:55 pm
Holster or lack thereof was not the issue – having dangly stuffe hanging off your jacket above your holster was, though. Stuffing loaded gun into holster without looking didn’t help.
March 11th, 2014 at 2:36 pm
Note the fourth paragraph: “After he put the Glock back in his holster, Counceller tugged on his jacket. Within seconds, the Glock fired, striking him in the right leg.”
Glocks going off when holstered or being reholstering due to drawstrings getting caught in the trigger guard are a KNOWN ISSUE, and have been for many years.
Given that a Glock is basically a single action handgun with NO EXTERNAL SAFETY (the lever on teh trigger doesn’t count — not even my Tokarev will go off unless you press the trigger, which incidentally is how you deactivate the Glock’s “safety”.
If you’re not fine carrying a cocked and unlocked Tokarev because it’s “unsafe”, why carry a Glock?
{grabs Nomex undies for hordes of Glock owners to respond. . . }
March 11th, 2014 at 10:28 pm
What’s total distance traveled by a Tok’s trigger from takeup ’til the sear breaks?
March 12th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
From near the end:
“In 1999, Counceller accidentally shot himself in the hand while assembling a gun he thought was not loaded.”
So this man has now shot himself TWICE. Amazing.
March 12th, 2014 at 2:42 pm
Tam — haven’t measured it. Doesn’t change the point — the Glock trigger isn’t exactly a long pull like a Beretta 96D or a Sig 250.
The fact that THIS EXACT CONVERSATION has been going on for years now, and almost ALWAYS about Glocks, yet it didn’t occur when cops were pretty much universally carrying DA revolvers, nor am I aware of it happening to any significant extent with traditional DA/SA semis or even SA semis carried cocked and locked sort of illustrates the point.
As does reports of how, even with no drawstring involved, how a worn leather holster can induce a Glock to discharge if the holster gets in the trigger guard.
Again, I don’t hear of these problems with guns that do not have the Glock set up of “short pull, reasonably light pull, no external safety”.
March 12th, 2014 at 6:56 pm
“yet it didn’t occur when cops were pretty much universally carrying DA revolvers”
I heard the term “racing stripe” in regard to a safety strap pulling a trigger before the first Glock pistol was ever imported into this country. (And it was in reference to a DA revolver.)
“As does reports of how, even with no drawstring involved, how a worn leather holster can induce a Glock to discharge if the holster gets in the trigger guard.”
Most incidents like that happen when someone holsters with enough force to set off ANY trigger.
The thing that absolutely gets. up. my. nose. about incidents like this is that when it’s a Glock all the Glock haters rush over to apply their little dickbeaters to their keyboards and go “Rawr,GlockGlockGlcok unsafe!” which does nothing but further their (or their readers’) subconscious programming that “Well, I don’t carry a Glock, so I don’t have to worry about that!“…
…and then they go launch a bullet from their SIG into their frickin’ calf.