End the drug war and release the POWs
Well, that’s my general position on the issue, presuming they’re not violent. But a simple question for the hardcore drug warriors out there.
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January 28th, 2016 at 8:05 pm
I agree with legalizing it all, as long as I don’t have to pay the medical costs of treating the abusers.
If we are going to be Libertarians, we are responsible for ourselves and shouldn’t expect others to pay for our messes.
We also need to do away with Welfare for drug users, even if they are legalized.
January 28th, 2016 at 8:36 pm
Prohibition does not work. Outlawing drugs creates allure, causes prices to skyrocket, and sweeps the results into the shadows. The allure causes more first time takers, The prices skyrocketing causes market makers to become wildly violent, and by sweeping the problem underground it hides the results from 9 yr old’s who, if they saw it would think; “yuck, that is to be avoided, look at those people.”
And as far as criminalized use is concerned, what one does where there is no intent, no victim, and no realized offense against another, is well, not a crime.
January 28th, 2016 at 8:51 pm
People are dying in droves in New England from fortified heroin and the bleeding hearts are wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth. If these people were able to buy heroin of a known potency at a neighborhood drug store this whole thing would be eliminated. Let’s use the fortified street stuff to execute criminals instead of searching the world for a humane execution drug and let the stoners live.
January 29th, 2016 at 5:29 am
The problem is the addicts that neglect and abuse their children. I remember the stories of horrific child abuse by their meth addict parents. And the neglect by heroin addicts. The poor kids never stood a chance.
Maybe if we allow some states to experiment with legalization, like Colorado is doing with pot?
January 29th, 2016 at 6:22 am
I don’t disagree with the premise – the gross failures of prohibition have been well demonstrated – but I’d like to see what the plan is for managing the fallout. Alcohol is legal, with some restrictions, we’ve got multiple millenia of experience with it and still have thousands of vehicle deaths and a multitude of other very obvious negative consequences from it.
We’re all pretty well versed with the vehicle-related problems with alcohol, and – for example – Florida doesn’t implement felony-level consequences until the 4th DUI. A great many states suspend licenses for DUI, so a great many states have DUI-convicted drivers driving while suspended. From a financial recovery standpoint there’s minimal difference between being hit by a suspended license driver and a completely uninsured illegal immigrant. We don’t have definitive data on business performance while impaired but it’s reasonable to assume the negative impact of alcohol on industrial incidents, and incorrect business (and personal) decisions, is greater than zero.
What would be the performance differences for drug legalization? Would drugs replace a certain amount of alcohol use or would it be another layer of impairment with which society would have to contend ?
January 29th, 2016 at 10:01 am
Not the why, but the how, was explored in China starting in 1949, when REALLY vigorous efforts were taken to lower the number of users of illegal drugs. The efforts did indeed lower the number of users, and probably quite a few nonusers who were denounced by their neighbors just to be sure.
I for one don’t want that sort of antidrug effort tried anywhere else, ever again.
January 29th, 2016 at 10:04 am
I am watching the House I Live In, and in what I’ve watched so far, is that Nixon, who kicked off the War On Drugs, in his original plan, devoted 2/3rds of the budget of it to treatment. It’s cost us over $1 trillion dollars in this losing war. And for a country with 5% of the world’s population, we incarcerate 25% of it. The majority of it YOUNG. BLACK. MEN. David Simon states that in Baltimore, for every 50 drug arrests, there is 1 murder or rape arrest. How many murders or rapes are being solved when the perverse incentive of asset forfeiture drives arrests?
January 29th, 2016 at 1:48 pm
“What about the fallout?” doesn’t wash with me. The fallout of the War on Some Drugs has been the trashing of the Constitution and corruption so massive Al Capone didn’t even dream of it.
And I don’t give a damn about the fact that YOUNG. BLACK. MEN. are being arrested, tried, convicted and incarcerated. They’re doing the crimes, let ’em do the time.
The War on Some Drugs has been a tremendously expensive and tremendously destructive failure. We should end it. But we won’t because too many politicians, judges, police and criminals are enriching themselves by it.
January 29th, 2016 at 1:59 pm
How many murders or rapes are being solved when the perverse incentive of asset forfeiture drives arrests?
Murder or rape arrest/prosecutions don’t generate revenue.
January 29th, 2016 at 3:28 pm
topofthechain, AND they work to restrict or deny people the right to armed self defense against murder or rape. In the case of rape, denying a woman her choice to keep and carry the means to protect her own body, is a “war on women”.
January 29th, 2016 at 4:46 pm
All true but the very worst aspect is the corruption of Law Enforcement. We lose much more than the War on Drugs.
January 29th, 2016 at 11:46 pm
Seriously, if you haven’t watched the film, The House I Live In, you should. If after watching it, it hasn’t at least made you think about the costs we bear for a 46 year old war, then I don’t think you are worth having a conversation with.