Don’t be that guy
This is probably the single dumbest shooting incident I’ve ever read about. The guy did exactly every thing wrong. I mean, he couldn’t have done it more brazenly if he was trying to go to prison.
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August 11th, 2016 at 5:31 pm
What. A. Mess.
August 11th, 2016 at 5:36 pm
You call the police. I mean, how hard is “911”.
August 11th, 2016 at 5:42 pm
We had one of our guards get beat up not too long ago. Some young men, apparently somehow connected with his daughter, in some rough way, tried to kick in his air conditioner window unit one night. He was kind enough to go out and speak to these young men, whereupon they proceeded, three of them, to beat him up.
Dumb idea. Forced entry in progress? Call 911. Get your shotgun, but do call 911, and let the professional police officers handle the professional criminals. It’s not something that you gain to sort out on your own.
August 11th, 2016 at 6:36 pm
Parents were siblings or first cousins.
There has to be a biological factor here, no one is that stupid.
August 11th, 2016 at 7:19 pm
You got it all wrong. He was only following the advice of our vice president, noted gunfighting and home self defense expert, Joe Biden. To paraphrase;
“Any time you’re feeling nervous, just fire off a couple shotgun blasts through your door.”
That’s just what happened.
This is a serious issue, yes, with serious accountability, Joe Biden.
August 11th, 2016 at 9:08 pm
Chas, “Dumb idea. Forced entry in progress?”
Exactly. I tell people all the time that if somebody is coming in your house knowing that you’re home your life is danger. Robbers DON’T WANT TO GET CAUGHT! This is a whole other matter. Danger, danger, danger!!!
August 11th, 2016 at 10:02 pm
If they did point a gun at him, and that’s a big IF, it might mitigate this slightly. Other than that, yeah, he screwed up. He trusted Joe Biden.
August 11th, 2016 at 11:22 pm
Well, you never fire or say you fired a “warning shot”. By definition, such a shot negates imminency in your mind which makes justifiable self defense near impossible.
The threat from people on your curtilage might justify self defense depending on your state and the threat, but never fire a warning shot. Unless you are the Vice President whose a moron.
August 12th, 2016 at 12:31 pm
The cop who killed the old lady in the role playing exercise should be considered too.
August 12th, 2016 at 1:58 pm
I think that this cannot be the absolute worst example of incorrect use of firearms in self defense considering:
(1) The person shooting the gun managed to not shoot themself.
and
(2) The firearm itself was not destroyed during use.
and
(3) The person hit by gunfire was a member of the mob at the home, not someone sleeping innocently in bed half a mile away.
I have read descriptions of poor self defense involving combinations of at least two outta three above, and believe this incident ranks well below those in dumbness.
Still, full points for a really good effort at dumb.
August 12th, 2016 at 2:52 pm
“Like I’m supposed to by law” …
That’s the kind of law I’d look up myself, directly, but I’m not him.
August 13th, 2016 at 3:19 pm
State laws may or may not allow for warning shots – however, if you killed someone, you definitely don’t say it was a warning shot. That means that, if someone was a threat, the shotgun was aimed away from them and killed someone else. If you believe everything he said, he confessed to manslaughter. If only part of it was true, it was murder.
There was another guy who apparently followed Biden’s advice in southeast Michigan. He shot a drunk/stoned teenage woman through his screen door when she “lunged” at him out of the dark. Given the circumstances, he could have made a case that this was self-defense against an apparently crazed person who was trying to break into his house at around 3 AM – except that first he told the police that she startled him and he fired by accident. That’s a confession to manslaughter, with a maximum sentence of life with the possibility of parole.
August 13th, 2016 at 9:39 pm
Yup. Joe Biden.
In a just world, he would face consequences – or, at the very least, be pressured to apologize for giving such mind-numbingly stupid advice.
But this Administration is not personally accountable for anything, is it? TurboTax Tim Geithner did something that would land you or me in prison; he gets to be Treasury Secretary. VP Biden advises the entire country that warning shots THROUGH A DOOR are a good idea, but that’s just “Joe being Joe”. The Secretary of State ignores a U.S. Ambassador’s cries for help, watches as he’s tortured to death, and lies about it to save her own skin… and, far from being an accessory to murder, she’s all but exonerated as she runs for President. The President watches as his IRS attacks private organizations because of their politics, possibly influencing the course of an election… and all we hear are crickets.
Perhaps someone in this Administration WAS held accountable for something, but at the moment I can’t think of it.
August 13th, 2016 at 11:54 pm
I’m not going to list the sequence that had to be performed, in the exact sequence, to kill somebody, again.
Don’t load a gun, point it precisely at someone, pull the trigger, and blame the NRA, or you deserve the death penalty, that the Demonrats think you don’t deserve.
Ya know, Trump? Maybe Trump, has the right idea about this sort of thing? Trump? Maybe? Trump? Maybe? Somebody named Trump, or somebody else? Trump? Huh? Trump?
August 14th, 2016 at 10:19 pm
Joe Biden is an attorney; he made his comments publically, purposefully, intentionally, decidedly, and thoughtfully. That is legal advice. The prosecution should have to show that the defendant was unreasonable in relying on the direct, applicable advice of legal counsel. If they aren’t willing to pursue sanctions against the lawyer who gave the advice, they shouldn’t be allowed to punish the citizen who relied upon the advice.
August 17th, 2016 at 8:41 pm
He said he fired a warning shot. That establishes that he had no “intent” to harm anyone. I don’t think anyone would prosecute ANYONE who didn’t have an intent to break a law, WOULD THEY?
August 17th, 2016 at 11:44 pm
Dunno about the others, but my “Biden” comment was sarcasm. I doubt the guy knows who that is anyways.