Terrifying
The Chicago PD thinks taking a black powder gun off the street is something worth bragging about.
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April 21st, 2017 at 6:14 pm
Well, that .25 is a modern firearm.
And while we laugh at .25ACP, I sure wouldn’t want to be shot with one.
April 21st, 2017 at 7:12 pm
A blackpowder firearm that doesn’t even have a trigger.
April 21st, 2017 at 8:37 pm
Someone should tell them that black powder guns aren’t even considered guns by the ATF.
April 22nd, 2017 at 10:48 am
The gun pictured is probably not functional, but 1858 Remingtons are a favorite of prohibited persons i.e. felons, because like Ravenswood said they don’t come under the GCA of 1968. You can buy cartridge conversion cylinders for them from Kirst or R & D (Kenny Howell) and swap them out in three seconds (see Clint Eastwood in Pale Rider). The conversion cylinders are considered parts and also not regulated; and you can get ammunition by mail order as long as it’s shipped to an address outside Chicago.
Actually, I am seriously considering getting one, not because I’m a prohibited person, but because I like the look of the old cap and balls but no longer want to mess with black powder.
April 22nd, 2017 at 11:52 am
@NK,
It’s true that they aren’t regulated, but if a convicted felon puts a cartridge conversion cylinder into one it’s probably illegal for them to have it. (keeping it as a black powder gun is, however, legal).
April 22nd, 2017 at 12:34 pm
True, Publius. The advantage is that in most states they can buy them without an FFL transfer or background check, even just by simple mail order.
April 22nd, 2017 at 12:41 pm
And check out how quick and easy it is to swap out, or just simply ditch, the cylinder on the Remington. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeqLL2xuSQs
April 22nd, 2017 at 3:21 pm
If you put a conversion cylinder in a cap-and-ball revolver, it becomes a firearm under GCA 68, because it now fires fixed ammunition.
And the exception for caplock weapons is in GCA 68, but Illinois law is more ambiguous. Section 430 ILCS 65 excepts “an antique firearm . . . which, although designed as a weapon, the Department of State Police finds . . . is primarily a collector’s item and is not likely to be used as a weapon.”
The ISP probably has a list or a register of such weapons, but I’m too lazy to look for it.
April 23rd, 2017 at 12:48 am
You really don’t want to fumble and drop one of those fully loaded cap-and-ball cylinder between your feet, especially while standing on concrete.
April 23rd, 2017 at 8:58 pm
I met a prohibited person once who was carrying a #3 Schofield made before 1898.
April 24th, 2017 at 8:03 am
Why not, Standard Mischief? If the nose of the hammer is in one of the safety notches between the nipple wells, it won’t go off, and the nipples are in recesses so the percussion caps won’t get hit. About the only way it could be a problem is if the gun is fully cocked, hammer over a loaded chamber. But that’s true of many, if not most guns.
April 24th, 2017 at 4:21 pm
A “prohibited person” is still “prohibited” from carrying a muzzleloader (a percussion revolver falls under the muzzleloader category). He can buy it without paperwork, and therefore not be declined, but he’s still breaking the law.