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Rep. Collins is pushing for a bill that would basically mean federal preemption of state gun laws.

11 Responses to “In NY”

  1. mikee Says:

    I’d rather have the anti-gunners fight 50 fights every year, plus the federal one, than have them able to win everywhere all at once just with a slim majority of corrupt Dem legislators, plus of course Susan Collins and John McCain.

  2. Fred Says:

    So it further codifies federal gun control, sort of like national reciprocity?

    No Thanks.

  3. Don Says:

    “”SAFE Act is a common sense gun safety law,” Ryan, a Buffalo Democrat, said on Twitter.”

    Common sense? It is common, alright, but seldom does it resemble sense.

  4. Paul Koning Says:

    “Common sense gun law” is Progressive code for a victim disarmament law. If an alleged republican posts a gun related bill and it gets that kind of praise from a democrat, that is a flaming fluorescent bright red flag.

  5. Paul Koning Says:

    Oops, sorry, I read that backwards. I thought the Dem was talking about Collins’s bill, rather than the law he’s trying to repeal. Apologies for reacting too fast.

  6. Yaoani Says:

    Excellent law.

    Congress has the authority to pass this law based on both the 14th amendment and their authority to arm the militia:

    Congress shall have the power … to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress
    — US Constitution, article 1, section 8, clause 15

    If a state bans militia weapons, the federal gov has the authority to reverse the ban… after all, on of the early federal gun laws was to require all men to own a gun, bayonet and ammunition:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Acts_of_1792

  7. Ron W Says:

    @Yaoani, But Congress and the Federal Government only have delegated power “for governing such part of them (the militia) as may be EMPLOYED in the SERVICE of the United States”. The militia is the armed citizenry, the People, not part of the government, or else the 2nd Amendment sentence is contradictory. Leftists try to constrain the RKBA to a government militia, which is absurd because the government has NO rights, only delegated powers. And without delegated powers, the government may do NOTHING. (10 th Amendment)

    But yes, the Federal Government has power to enforce ALL of the Bill of Rights. A State banning weapons is an “infringement” on “the right of the People to keep and bear arms” according to the wording of the 2nd Amendment.

  8. kfg Says:

    “State officials said they believe the bill may violate the Constitution’s 10th amendment.”

    Wait. So all of a sudden they’ve discovered that the 10th Amendment actually counts?

    Take that and ram it down their throats, good and hard.

    And then the 9th.

  9. Lyle Says:

    We already have preemption. It’s the second amendment coupled with Incorporation Doctrine.

    I spelled it out (though rather vociferously)
    around nine years ago.

  10. Ron W Says:

    @kfg, yes! yes! The 10th Amendment…without enumerated delegated powers, the government may LAWFULLY do NOTHING!
    But wait! They’re racist! That’s what leftists have often asserted about conservatives and pro Liberty people when they call for enforcing the 10th Amendment. And whoa!! The 9th Amendment….that’s way too much Liberty!!! NOT!

  11. Paul Koning Says:

    The simple rule of amendments is that later ones supersede earlier ones they conflict with. And the 14th amendment clearly was intended to bind the states to the Bill of Rights (its originator said so very plainly, mentioning the right to bear arms in particular). So the 10th amendment argument is bunk.

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