The FBI is comparing NICS checks to a suspected terrorist database
Law policy quotes the FBI:
Since 2004, as part of its background checks for all potential firearms purchasers, the NICS has searched a file containing a list of known or suspected terrorists that is exported by the Terrorist Screening Center from the TSDB into the FBIs National Crime Information Center database.
There’s no law authorizing the action.
August 15th, 2017 at 6:11 pm
Glad to see it worked wonders in Orlando. Also does t this sound like the quasi no fly, no buy list they were pushing?
August 15th, 2017 at 6:16 pm
Excuse was that “…no law…”blah, blah, supposed to be sarcasm or cynicism?
As in do you really think the fibbies give a flying pile of rat s**t in regards to paying any attention to any law.
August 15th, 2017 at 8:45 pm
Well… um the FBI wasn’t created or authorized by Congress so really I don’t see how they have much authority to do anything. Just because the president says so doesn’t seem right to me
August 15th, 2017 at 9:17 pm
The problem isn’t so much whether a gov activity is “authorized” when so much of what it does is not…but rather whether its aptitude to do it anyway is matched by its eptitude, when so much of what it does is not.
It’s not, and that is what is scary.
August 15th, 2017 at 9:41 pm
Denying one the right to purchase a firearm for being a “suspected terrorist” is a flagrant violation of “due process of law” (5th Amendment) by secret and arbitrary means. With the Patriot Act and banking laws, almost anyone can be a “suspected terrorist” if, for instance, you withdraw YOUR MONEY in too large amounts over certain periods of time.
August 15th, 2017 at 10:00 pm
JTC, I wonder if this is not so much vetting the firearm purchaser as passing info back to the TSDB that “he has a gun now.”
August 16th, 2017 at 9:20 am
Historically, alphabet federal agencies enact their despot actions and polices generally ignoring the constitution, particularly the 2nd and 4th amendments.
rickn8or is spot on. Just generating a gun owners list.
August 16th, 2017 at 9:37 am
For those who haven’t seen it already, the discussion of Standing on the issue here http://www.pagunblog.com/2017/08/15/standing/ (and in the shared source article) is relevant. As rickn8or and Sammy said, it looks like there are no NICS denials resulting from this cross-check, so in the FBI’s view, there are no legal grounds to stop them.
August 16th, 2017 at 10:54 am
So NICS checks are, by law, NOT to be used to form a registry of gun ownership in the US.
Are terrorist names checked against the NICS applicant’s name, or are all NICS applicant names sent to the terrorist database to be checked both now and in future as more names are added to the terrorist database?
Sure, a minor detail of semantics, especially considering the NICS names are likely kept forever anyway, if only on some thumb drive by a political operative, right?