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Sebastian: Don’t ban the brown drink
Also, seen on facebook by PDB:
If you don’t know what a 4473, Form 4, or 922(r) is, do not know what the dates 1934, 1968, 1986, 1994 and 2004 mean, cannot explain the difference between shall-issue and may-issue, or a 03 SOT versus an 02 SOT, then you are not prepared to articulate any useful opinion on the state of gun law in this country and you should do your homework before speaking.
February 16th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
I know NRA members who couldn’t 🙂 A lot of them.
February 16th, 2018 at 5:45 pm
I’d say most of my club probably knows what a 4473. A decent number Form 4. The years? Iffy. SOT’s no way. Only a handful.
February 16th, 2018 at 11:42 pm
Well that “great analogy” is really a flawed one isn’t it?
I mean the template of failing to learn the lesson of prohibition is lifted straight from the war on the WOD.
While restraints on booze and dope are pretty equally absurd, unenforceable and steeped in the irony of counterintuitive counterproductivity, neither rise quite to the level the denial of an enumerared right to defend against the restrainers do they?
February 17th, 2018 at 1:26 pm
When I worked in a major medical center, I had a friendly debate with a female physician who wanted much stricter gun control because it was worth it to save even a few lives. I told her about my carry permit which required criminal background check, state approved course and fees all to exercise an enumerated Constitutional right. I said, you know well how much injury and death is caused by DUI, so let’s also require a similar permit for everyone to consume alcohol in restaurants which isn’t an enumerated right. She replied, “oh, I don’t think we could do that!” I replied, why not? No answer. Argument over.
February 17th, 2018 at 5:06 pm
I recognize everything except form 4 and SOT. Those, I don’t have a clue!
February 17th, 2018 at 9:44 pm
A Form 4 is for a NFA transfer.
SOT or Special Occupational Tax/Taxpayer is the extra taxes required (in addition to an FFL of the correct type) to import, manufacturer, or deal in NFA items.
The difference between the 03 and the 02 is one is just a dealer and the other is a manufacturer.
So what’s my gun nerd prize for knowing everything on the list?
February 19th, 2018 at 2:54 pm
I think I can comment in any case, despite not memorizing what Special Occupational Tax classification is for what.
(I mean, I agree on the overall idea of “please stop lecturing me about laws until you have any goddamn idea at all what the laws are“, but …)
February 19th, 2018 at 5:15 pm
Sorry, in spite of support links, doing a cut ‘n paste with guns of the booze/dope parallel is still a flawed analogy.
Similarities in ironic counter-productivity do apply, as does a basis in infringing freedom with pre-emptive legislation.
But those infringements were not specifically considered and addressed by the framers; rather they are/were among the infringements about which they knew we would have no recourse without the very specific considerations they did give to our enumerated rights to speak against and defend against our own government and addressed in the first and second amendments.
Prohibitions on personal behavior that harms no other person are stupid and arguably unconstitutional. Prohibitions on the enumerated rights to make those arguments and defend those rights are absolutely unconstitutional.
Comparing the former to the latter when there is no comparison equals flawed analogy. I did like the brown/clear drink thing though.