Pathetic
Law enforcement was aware of the Florida shooter. They were warned repeatedly and it sill happened.
An officer was on the scene when the shooting happened. He never entered the building or engaged the shooter. He’s resigned. Apparently, he took a position and radioed it in. Is that the protecting or the serving? Granted, it may have been a training issue as police, until recently, did tend to show up, secure the area, etc. But I don’t think that’s the case anymore.
Perhaps it is, then, a bit of projection that the sheriff is blaming the NRA for his department’s repeated failures. You, sir, are a clown.
February 23rd, 2018 at 6:33 pm
He followed the Homeland Security active shooter training to the letter; run, hide, piss your pants, cower, shit your pants, and call for an adult.
February 23rd, 2018 at 7:49 pm
When seconds count, help is just outside, phoning it in and preparing for retirement.
February 23rd, 2018 at 8:10 pm
We can’t expect police to stop an active shooter, but apparently we are to believe that we can count on them to confiscate millions of guns from peaceable citizens. We peaceable citizens don’t pose such a threat. We have more to lose, so it’s much easier (and more profitable) to come after us.
Ergo; blame, and attack, anyone but the criminal. Criminals are dangerous and shouldn’t be further provoked. We created the criminals anyway, remember, because of inequality and the general unfairness of America. Just ask Charles Manson.
Besides; how is government going to have pretext to grab more power if problems get solved, e.g. if criminals are stopped in the act? Hmm? Government failure is the ticket to more government funding, authority and reach (“We can’t do our jobs so give us more!”). You expect them to give up that gig voluntarily? Not a chance, regardless of party.
Whatever comes of this go’round then, government will get just a little bit bigger, more intrusive and more powerful. Lather, rinse, repeat, ad infinitum. QED.
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:57 pm
Amen, Lyle. Amen.
February 23rd, 2018 at 10:00 pm
4 deputies waited outside, not just the one
February 23rd, 2018 at 11:26 pm
You say pathetic. True.
Trump says no courage and a coward. Also true.
When’s the last time you saw that kind of hard truth from the mouth of a politician let alone a potus?
So now the cop is being threatened. If it’s by “protestors” are they armed? Ironic justice.
And unclear if somebody gets to him if the deputies outside would respond. Poetic justice.
February 23rd, 2018 at 11:52 pm
*One* cowering deputy? Looks like it was actually FOUR!
No word yet if they soiled themselves.
Fucking cowards, but we’re supposed to disarm and trust our lives to these dipshits. Like hell.
February 24th, 2018 at 1:48 am
Coward County.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:03 am
Type coward in Google and hit Search. Or just click here. And scroll down past the definition.
February 24th, 2018 at 10:42 am
But the high sheriff of Broward County went on CNN and blamed the NRA. There are pics of him with Hillary Clinton who told us, “guns don’t make us safe”. I guess that’s why his deputies didn’t go in.
Didn’t SCOTUS rule a long time ago that LEO’s have no legal duty to protect us? OK, no problem, no issue here folks.
February 24th, 2018 at 10:49 am
That’s only if you bring a Bivens-type action under the U.S. Constitution. It’s not necessarily the rule under the common law or state laws. For example, a fake Good Samaritan who only pretends to come to your assistance or gives up in the middle can be held liable if he prevented others from giving assistance because they relied on him.
February 24th, 2018 at 11:04 am
That BSO sheriff, is a political animal. He reigns in Broward county, a progressive, liberal enclave in southeastern Florida. He is most certainly not held in high regard by the officers he “leads” In the past, he has been an avid obama supporter & hillary supporter.
It was interesting to note that ‘his’ officers hid behind their cars until local cops (city of Coral Springs) entered the building looking for the shooter.
As a side note, I live in Broward county, about two miles from where the school shooting happened. I am also a range officer where the BSO (and almost all the local) cops do their quals. Their training and marksmanship is ludicrous.
February 24th, 2018 at 11:25 am
“Turn in your guns, the police will protect you”
February 24th, 2018 at 11:28 am
It gets better, Apparently there were FOUR Broward County Deputies that ‘took position’ outside. The one at the door we already knew about, plus another three that never left the parking lot because they were cowering behind their cars with guns drawn, probably in case someone tried to take their parking spots.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/four-sheriffs-deputies-hid-during-florida-school-shooting/
Disturbing how the Sheriff and Jake Tapper/CNN all knew this before that hit & run on Rubio.
Just seeing Rubio dumb enough to show up to that ambush reinforced the decisions I made during the GOP Primary. That guy is not ready. He walked into an obvious trap. I bet NRA showed up just to mitigate the damage they knew he would cause.
February 24th, 2018 at 11:44 am
Dude’s a lefty politician not a cop.
TalkTalkTalk put him in charge of the largest “accredited” leo organization in the country and he uses it to pay off his supporters and family with patronage jobs to the tune of millions…he’s even been charged with it and then re-elected.
Yeah like somebody said, it’s a den of old line leftist Jews (of which he is one) and liberal transplants from everywhere in the country.
Actually performing his sworn duty is a foreign concept to him, very much in the mold of Opie One Kenyabi.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:13 pm
“Granted, it may have been a training issue as police, until recently, did tend to show up, secure the area, etc. But I don’t think that’s the case anymore.
Unc, that hasn’t been doctrine since Columbine. Current thinking is 1st Officer goes to the sound of gunfire and does his/her best til reinforcements arrive. And your best does not mean take a position outside. They should pin down or put the cur down. It’s what people pay us for.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Now it sounds like a couple more of them showed up and had a nice chat in the parking lot while the shooting was going down.
They need to change the uniforms to yellow.
February 24th, 2018 at 7:13 pm
As SCOTUS said, they have no obligation to save you. Just to pick up your dead body. Ergo, the 2nd Amendment.
February 24th, 2018 at 7:55 pm
I can’t comment on what protocols Florida has for active shooter response. My understanding is local police arrived to find four deputies waiting outside the building. In North Carolina active shooter training calls for the responding officers to immediately enter the building as they arrive then find the shooter and “stop” him. I don’t see how these deputies can live with themselves knowing that had they entered the school on arrival they might have been save those kids or at least some of them. That Sheriff needs to take responsibility and resign. Just saying…
February 24th, 2018 at 9:03 pm
Instapundit linked to some guy on Twitter who said people should send Pussy Hats to the Broward County Sheriff’s Department.
At first I laughed. Then I started looking. Problem is nobody is making them that I am willing to pay.
Maybe we’ll make some out of paper tomorrow. I’m sure there is a pattern online. Cheaper shipping, too.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:31 pm
LEO’s are supposedly physically and mentally prepared for this scenario, but none them (or us) really know how we will respond when/if we face the elephant.
In 40 years in the gun/pawn biz I had many of them as customers from fresh-faced road guys to detectives, the brass, and even the PD chief and the SO sheriff. I think the vast majority would or at least think they would, respond selflessly in such an incident. But most of them never do face that challenge, and none of them (and none of us) can be sure of the response unless/until it happens. Myself I thank God that in all those years and quite a few sketchy situations, I never did.
This guy had 33 years on the job, was probably winding down his career as a SRO just as my friend Tom did for his last five years when he took his “DROP” retirement. For Tom it wasn’t just a coast to the end job, he loved kids, always a youth baseball coach and he and his wife even adopted a girl after his boys were older. No doubt in my mind that he would go to the danger to protect his school kids and no doubt in his mind either I’m sure…but again none of us really know.
What we do know about Scot Peterson is that when his time did come he reverted to self-preservation of himself, putting his own interests first, The irony is that his fear of dying at the point of a POS gun might result in an overwhelming shame and disgrace that could have him consider eating his own gun…but we know that the power of self-preservation in his case will likely preclude that.
What a horrible rest of his life he will have.
February 25th, 2018 at 1:06 am
From the media reports, the Coral Springs police showed up at the school and were appalled to see those deputies standing there. They went in immediately, as did two more Broward County deputies and a police officer from another jurisdiction. At this point there seems to be only one question. Did they hesitate on their own or were they ordered to hold?
February 25th, 2018 at 2:31 am
I’ve actually seen the argument that the SRO’s actions prove that teachers shouldn’t be armed because a good guy with a gun froze. I pointed out, that is why you need more than one good guy with a gun. Odds are all won’t freeze.
The other argument is that who would want to go against someone with an AR-15 with just pistol. The AR is three times as fast. Apparently, there is a belief that a gun fight is like the Harry Potter/Voldermort wand battles with the bullets fighting it in a tug of war. Guy with the biggest wand wins.
February 25th, 2018 at 8:26 am
JK Brown-
If thats’ the position they’re actually taking – “The other argument is that who would want to go against someone with an AR-15 with just pistol” – it begs the question… Why the fuck would a sheriff or deputy in Broward County Florida *not* have an AR15 in the trunk?!?
February 25th, 2018 at 12:20 pm
In an interview a couple of days ago, Col Allen West retorted to high sheriff Israel’s absurd condemnation of the NRA. He pointed out that while FOUR of the high sheriff’s deputies waited in hiding outside, that during the Texas church shooting, an NRA instructor quickly loaded his AR–15 to confront the escaping armed shooter, wounding him and then joining in the pursuit, quite possibly preventing another attack on unarmed victims.
Also recall that former VP Joe Biden could only scoff that the NRA instructor “should not have had that rifle.” Joe Biden was the sponsor of the Gun Free Schools legislation back in 1990. Thanks a lot, Joe.
February 25th, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Unc: “Law enforcement was aware of the Florida shooter. They were warned repeatedly and it still happened.”
Crooked politician posing as sheriff said on teevee this morning:
“Of course I won’t resign…I can only take responsibility for what I knew about,” Israel said. “I exercise my due diligence. I’ve given amazing leadership to this agency.”
Know what usually precedes resignations or removals from office of inept and self-impressed leaders? Statements to the press similar to that one.
February 25th, 2018 at 12:29 pm
@Izapole, but they want it both ways, “no obligation to protect you” AND deny your 2nd Amendment right of armed self defense, especially to the children in your schools. Very evil!
February 25th, 2018 at 9:47 pm
@JTC, oh, so the high sheriff says, “…I can only take responsibility for what I knew about.” But apparently, he thinks the NRA knew all about it? Whattan ignorant, bigot hypocrite!
February 26th, 2018 at 10:30 am
Money bomb the NRA on 3/24.
Not all of us care for he NRA that much, but they are the symbol the left is out to the destroy at the moment.
February 26th, 2018 at 1:45 pm
How to talk to your teenager about the Parkland shooting so they understand the full picture
February 26th, 2018 at 5:34 pm
@JK Brown, didja ask her if “the kids at school” would include everyone in removing all guns? Or would they exempt agents of the ruling elites and private armed security of the wealthy celebrities and pro athletes? I recently pretty much shut down a gun controller when I said, OK, let’s include EVERYONE. After all, “who needs?” , “or no one needs” does include everyone. And we’re all for equality aren’t we?