Seems easy to confirm
An unsigned idiotorial* in Daytona:
The number of concealed weapons permits issued annually in Florida more than doubled over the past five years. Do you feel safer?
If you’re one of the 73,179 people who got a permit last year and now have a gun tucked away, maybe. For the rest of the population, probably not.
Gun proponents make much of the fact that Florida’s gun-related crime is on the increase. They don’t make the obvious leap — the spike could well be tied to the sheer numbers of weapons flowing into the state. They also fail to acknowledge that Florida’s violent crime rates fluctuated widely in the 20 years since the state Legislature liberalized concealed-weapon laws, requiring the state to grant permits to most people who asked. (Florida’s law, known as “shall-issue,” became a national model; by 2004, most states had the same law.)
So what good are all these guns? In recent years, the state has logged between 1,800 and 1,900 handgun deaths per year. In 2004, the last year for which statistics are available from the Centers for Disease Control, only 11 of those deaths were due to “legal intervention,” and most of those shootings were by police officers in the line of duty.
Handgun death rates tell another tale: Florida’s rate in 2004 was 10.6 gun deaths per 100,000 population — drastically higher than any of the 10 states that still have tough concealed-handgun laws, with the exception of Maryland, whose rate was 12 deaths.
And how many are committed by someone with a concealed carry permit? I mean, since that’s what you’re implying here.
They end with: At some point, however, Floridians (and their elected representatives) should face reality. The state’s gun-friendly culture hasn’t made it any safer; in fact, most evidence points in the other direction.
No, it doesn’t. Because you’re correlating an increase in a group of lawful citizens not involved in shootings with an increase in shootings.
* btw, brand new made up word.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:31 am
I wonder why the author doesn’t point out Washington DC’s 2004 Drastically Higher murder rate of 35.7 per 100,000. Of course DC isn’t a state so……..
September 17th, 2007 at 11:21 am
*The word of the day is portmanteau. Another fucking French derived word.
By the way even if what they fail to imply is true, my civil rights do not ebb and flow with the crime rates.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:41 am
I would like to know how many of the people involved are actual citizens of florida. Living by Orlando, most of their problem is from gangs and illegial immigrants. I’m sure Miami has the same problem.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
Shhhh! You’re not supposed to utter truth! GUNS are the problem, not a tiny, easily identifiable subset of the population!
If they acknowledged that, they’d have to admit that taking guns away from the general law-abiding population doesn’t address the actual problem! They’d have to admit that they could actually do something productive if they could just bypass Political Correctness!
September 17th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
From the iditorial: “Handgun death rates tell another tale: Florida’s rate in 2004 was 10.6 gun deaths per 100,000 population — drastically higher than any of the 10 states that still have tough concealed-handgun laws, with the exception of Maryland, whose rate was 12 deaths.”
Any idea where he/she came up with this tid-bit? I would like to see how the other 30-some states compared as well, assuming his source exists and is somewhat accurate.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
“Handgun death rates tell another tale: Florida’s rate in 2004 was 10.6 gun deaths per 100,000 population”
Where’d that fool get that stat? How about 5.4 in 2004. NO STATE has a 10.6 per 100k homocide rate though some cities have that and higher.
More PSH.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=12&did=169#MRord
September 17th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Notice how they only count guns as being useful when a goblin is killed? They don’t count the thousands of times people used firearms non-lethally. Another case of cooking the stats.
September 17th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
And of course, if someone strangles you, knifes you, or beats your head in, you’re not dead because they didn’t use a gun…
September 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Standard M: “..my civil rights do not ebb and flow with the crime rates.”
That is excellent! I see a T-shirt here. Better yet, it should be on a billboard.
There were a lot of lies told last year, therefore we need more restrictions on speech. Now that makes sense.
The Floridians may be suffering from a shortage of violence. If there are still violent criminals there, does in not prove that the anti-criminal violence rate has been insufficient? With adequate violence brought against them, surely at some point the violent criminals would either be dead, in jail, or they would have moved to Washington DC where they are protected by DC gun laws.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Every time I think I’ve originated something, I check google only to find that nearly everything is a “been there done that” moment for someone else.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=idiotorial&btnG=Google+Search
Sorry Uncle.