Hope & Change
Nothing new but the package. From the White House’s new web site comes the gun policies, buried in the urban policy section (more of that Cheyenne/Chicago nonsense we keep hearing about?):
Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.
So, they either don’t understand the Tiahrt amendment or are being untruthful. Even ATF says that the amendment does not prohibit law enforcement access to trace data. And support for the ban on weapons that look like assault weapons? So, they support your second amendment rights by wanting to restrict your second amendment rights. Gosh, I don’t know why gun sales are up so much.
Meanwhile, they claim to support sportsmen.
January 20th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I’ll go with “being untruthful”.. the truth simply doesn’t get it done for them here.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
What Hartley said, they’re a bunch of Lawyers who live in DC, they lie by definition, avocation and natural response.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:24 am
Did anyone really believe the Obamaniation when he said he supported our second ammendment rights?
“Untruthful” aint the word. Call them what they are, LIARS!
January 21st, 2009 at 2:25 am
Of course they are wooing sportsmen.
They are hoping the outright Fudds can save them.
They haven’t figured out what the gun industry already knows … that shooters vastly outnumber hunters.
January 21st, 2009 at 9:39 am
What if they’re not liars at all but just politicians who don’t know as much about guns as you guys and who are desperately trying to find ways to decrease gun crime? Are none of their suggestions acceptable?
January 21st, 2009 at 11:16 am
“Are none of their suggestions acceptable?”
Yes, _none_ of their suggestions are acceptable. Some of their suggestions are likely to _cause_ more violence than any of us want to see.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:30 am
I’m probably not an expert, but I can’t think of ANY ban of an object or substance that has had more than a transitory effect on crime (or suicide rates). While the nature of the crime (assault, murder, etc.) has often changed (such as the shift from guns to knives in the UK), the basic rates generally do not. For sure, no ban on objects because of their APPEARANCE has ever made any difference, which is what the “assault weapons” ban is.
In fact, the one thing I know of that has had a measurable effect of certain types of crime (primarily assault-related) has been the granting of the right to carry a concealed weapon.
Can you please tell me why giving weapons trace info to politicians and lawyers will accomplish something that giving it to law enforcement does not?
“Politicians who don’t know…” but who are in a position to enact legislation are at least as dangerous (if not more so) than the armed criminals they are purporting to combat. I cannot expect that any ignorance of the law or reality on my part will be forgiven or excused, why should we give a pass to ignorant politicians?
January 21st, 2009 at 11:30 am
No, Mike, none of them are acceptable. all this crap does is penalize the law abiding.