Assault Weapons Ban Round Up – Columbine Edition
Tomorrow will be the fifth anniversary of the Columbine tragedy and there was an NRA convention this weekend. Chalk one up to poor timing. As such, anti-gun hysteria is reaching levels comparable to that annoying homeland security chart. One article on debating the statistics says:
The two sides in the Senate debate over extending the decade-old ban on assault weapons are convinced of the bill’s value — and both think they have the numbers to prove it.
“We got the bill passed a decade ago, and America has been safer for it, ” argued Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat who pushed through the original bill in the face of roaring opposition from the National Rifle Association and its allies.
“In fact, the percentage of assault weapons used in crimes since this bill has passed has diminished by two-thirds,” she added during a Senate debate last month. “That is the good news.”
But Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, an NRA board member, said the 1994 ban was a bust.
“The restrictions imposed by this law make no sense and only create a burden on law-abiding citizens and businesses,” he told the Senate.
Craig had his own statistics, from the Justice Department, to prove his point.
“Before the semiautomatic-firearms ban, less than 2 percent of crimes in this country were semi-auto. After the ban, from 1997 and forward, less than 2 percent were. Same figure,” he said
Either side is prone to finding stats that support its conclusion. Strangely absent from a lot of this debate is the issue of freedom. After all, who are you to tell me (a law abiding citizen with no intent to harm anyone) what my rifle should look like?
Next up is this opinion piece on the ban which is quite short on facts and long on VPC talking points. Don’t even bother to read it unless you just want a refresher on the talking points.
Unsurprisingly, Cheney didn’t mention the Assault Weapons Ban at the NRA convention. Bush has said he supports the ban but he has not actively pursued it. Some argue he’s playing politics for votes by supporting it and keeping votes by not actively pushing it. Cheney has also vowed to protect gun owner rights. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Additionally, there was some emotional blather by the parent of a child killed in the tragedy that outlined the touchy-feeliness of the issue. Even more unfortunate is that other reports suggest that the NRA members were making rather rude comments to the parent.
Spoons concludes Illinois voters are idiots:
I’d like to conduct another poll, and ask my fellow Illinoisans the following questions:
What does the assault weapons ban, ban? Under what circumstances do you have to have a federal background check when you buy a gun at a gun show? Under what circumstances do you not have to have a federal background check when you buy a gun elsewhere than a gun show? Describe how the laws regarding federal background checks differ at gun shows, versus all other locations. How many U.S. states allow citizens to carry concealed weapons? How do the crime rates of states with concealed carry compare to the crime rates of states without concealed carry? How many states that have adopted concealed carry over the past ten years have seen their crime rates go up? How many have gone down?
One reported bit of good news is that the assault weapons ban is off the legislature’s table until at least spring. The good news is that some gun rights will be restored in September. The bad news is that the 11 high capacity magazines I have at the house will drop in value. A price worth paying.
April 19th, 2004 at 12:45 pm
SU – fifth anniversary, not ninth.
April 19th, 2004 at 12:48 pm
Yeah, i just caught that as you were leaving the comment apparently. It’s the ninth anniversary of OK city.
April 19th, 2004 at 1:38 pm
> The bad news is that the 11 high capacity
> magazines I have at the house will drop in value.
You were planning to sell them?????
April 19th, 2004 at 1:41 pm
Not at all, i was just being smarmy.
April 19th, 2004 at 1:59 pm
Monday is also the anniversary of the killing of the Branch Davidians at Mt. Carmel by government forces.
I shot the Texas Highpower Championship near there this weekend and drove out to see the site. No LEOs that I have met in the area will give directions and the general talk is that the site is “fenced off” and there is “nothing to see.” I had an old map from the Dallas Morning News and instead found a little museum, memorials, a new chapel built where the old chapel that the FBI burned stood, and a guide. Got to see the houses that the ATF staked out that later was the snipers perch for Hortuchi. Got to see the ruins, a scale model, photos of the dead Davidians, et, et. Worth the visit.
Caretaker says they have a chronic problem with visits by drunk Baylor students late at night. Occassionally someone will take a few potshots from the road into the property. Someone shot the new chapel a few times, et, et.
They get about ten cars of visitors a day on weekends he said.
Of course, he could have been a dangerous lying cult member who only wanted to sexually abuse my children and manufacture machine guns, so you never can tell.
April 19th, 2004 at 1:59 pm
Monday is also the anniversary of the killing of the Branch Davidians at Mt. Carmel by government forces.
I shot the Texas Highpower Championship near there this weekend and drove out to see the site. No LEOs that I have met in the area will give directions and the general talk is that the site is “fenced off” and there is “nothing to see.” I had an old map from the Dallas Morning News and instead found a little museum, memorials, a new chapel built where the old chapel that the FBI burned stood, and a guide. Got to see the houses that the ATF staked out that later was the snipers perch for Hortuchi. Got to see the ruins, a scale model, photos of the dead Davidians, et, et. Worth the visit.
Caretaker says they have a chronic problem with visits by drunk Baylor students late at night. Occassionally someone will take a few potshots from the road into the property. Someone shot the new chapel a few times, et, et.
They get about ten cars of visitors a day on weekends he said.
Of course, he could have been a dangerous lying cult member who only wanted to sexually abuse my children and manufacture machine guns, so you never can tell.
April 20th, 2004 at 9:26 am
Bad timing?
http://63.147.65.175/news/shot0422nn.htm