Odd poll results
The correct way to say it would be nine out of ten Richmond area residents don’t know anything about gun laws. However, what they really say is:
Nine out of 10 Richmond-area residents support a proposed law that would close the so-called “gun-show loophole,” a newly released crime-and-safety survey shows.
The loophole allows unlicensed gun dealers to sell firearms at Virginia gun shows without making background checks of purchasers.
There is no such thing as an unlicensed dealer who can operate legally. A person who deals in firearms must have a license. These unlicensed dealers are regular people lawfully selling their private collections.
January 24th, 2005 at 11:32 am
The correct way to say it would be nine out of ten Richmond area residents don’t know anything about gun laws.
Or, um, maybe nine out of ten Richmond area residents think that regular people shouldn’t be allowed to lawfully sell their private collections at Virginia gun shows without making background checks of purchasers?
Just a guess.
January 24th, 2005 at 11:42 am
And how would they (or you) propose that a regular citizen do that? And when you label a question with phrases like unlicensed dealers and gunshow loophole, I think that’s called leading.
January 24th, 2005 at 12:10 pm
when you label a question with phrases like unlicensed dealers and gunshow loophole, I think that’s called leading.
Fair enough, although the Piss-Patch isn’t exactly a hotbed of anti-gun liberal activism.
how would they (or you) propose that a regular citizen do that?
I’m not personally proposing that, just interpreting the results of the poll.
But since they don’t want people buying guns at gunshows without a background check, it seems pretty obvious they would want people who don’t have the capability to perform background checks to not be allowed to sell guns at gunshows.
January 24th, 2005 at 12:46 pm
Weekly Check on the Bias…
So, the Northeast digs out from a large snowstorm, especially in Boston so that there’s a clear path for the victory parade for the New England Patriots when they CRUSH the Philadelphia Eagles on February 6th (“Don’t hate me, I’m…
January 24th, 2005 at 1:06 pm
A more honest statement would be that nine out of ten Richmond residents either don’t know about gun laws, or do know about gun laws and disagree with Uncle’s position. I’m sure some fall into each camp.
As to how unlicensed individuals would perform background checks, that’s not really part of the 9 out of 10 question, is it? Besides, it’s not a big deal. All you have to do is find one licensed dealer willing to run it for you for a fee. That’s not hard to do, and it’s a snap at a gun show, where licensed dealers abound.
January 24th, 2005 at 2:03 pm
What is the usual fee for a dealer to run these checks? If I were selling a gun to a stranger, I’d feel better if I was sure he didn’t just get out of prison for armed robbery.
But I do understand that such scumbags hardly ever come to gun shows. If I understand correctly, they can go back to prison for merely holding an unloaded gun, and there isn’t much else to do. If that doesn’t make them nervous, then hanging out with people who talk about the best place to aim for on a scumbag’s body will…
January 24th, 2005 at 2:24 pm
California has no “gun show loophole,” so it’s routine for private parties to go through licensed dealers here. I’ve never actually done one myself, so I just called On Target, the place where I shoot, and which is one of very few gun shops (and probably the only range) in “the” O.C. They quoted me $35. Presumably, you could do better than that in a more competitive environment, such as a gun show.
January 24th, 2005 at 2:27 pm
I’m in the process of transferring a new AR15 lower receiver now, total is $20 ($10 for the NICS and $10 charge to do the xfer).
This building AR15s thing is a disease.
January 24th, 2005 at 4:27 pm
Just so I’m straight on this, If I want to deal in guns legally, but I don’t want to run/pay for a background check on my customers, then my best option is not to get a license, call myself a regular person, and call my inventory a private collection. Is that right?
January 24th, 2005 at 4:44 pm
Depends on volume and appearance, smijer. It’s not really codified into law in terms of volume, but if you’re essentially stocking weapons and selling them, you needs a license. Most private party transfers at a gun show involve one individual engaging in commerce with another individual, neither of which is a dealer. What has gun controllers up in arms is that some licensed dealers also have personal firearms that they bought. As such, they sell them as private individuals.