Actually, I don’t like correlation alone, either. But if you’re trying to solve a violent crime problem (specifically gun-related crime), there are two immediate solutions that spring to mind: try to make guns harder to get, or try to address the underlying problems that are driving the crime rate in the first place.
In my estimation, the latter is the correct thing to do, while the former is mostly a waste of time. Problem is, the Democrats in this country generally try to do both, while the Republicans try to do neither.
And BTW, I don’t think anyone seriously argues that “guns cause crime.” The actual argument is probably something closer to this: given a situation where a crime is likely, that situation is worse with guns than it would be without. Or, at worst, that guns enable crime (not cause it). You can agree or disagree with these statements, and that’s fine, but that’s better than misrepresenting the arguments of your opponents.
August 1st, 2005 at 12:26 pm
Because they’re more enlightened than us neanderthals in America.
August 1st, 2005 at 5:19 pm
I’m gonna go with “Consumer Driven” Universal Health Care, coupled with a child poverty rate less than a third that of the US combining to form a situation where there’s less need (or incentive) to turn to crime.
Nah, you’re probably right, it’s the guns.
August 1st, 2005 at 5:22 pm
Tom, I don’t place any faith in corelation. However, since the cries of the anti-gunnies is that guns cause crime, switzerland would have a ton of it.
Also, Wheelgun leaves out the fact that, marksmanship events aside, switzerland has pretty strict laws regarding the ‘bearing’ of their arms.
August 1st, 2005 at 6:34 pm
Obviously, if guns cause crime and Swiss guns don’t cause crime, then Swiss guns are defective. QED.
August 2nd, 2005 at 2:28 pm
Actually, I don’t like correlation alone, either. But if you’re trying to solve a violent crime problem (specifically gun-related crime), there are two immediate solutions that spring to mind: try to make guns harder to get, or try to address the underlying problems that are driving the crime rate in the first place.
In my estimation, the latter is the correct thing to do, while the former is mostly a waste of time. Problem is, the Democrats in this country generally try to do both, while the Republicans try to do neither.
August 2nd, 2005 at 2:31 pm
And BTW, I don’t think anyone seriously argues that “guns cause crime.” The actual argument is probably something closer to this: given a situation where a crime is likely, that situation is worse with guns than it would be without. Or, at worst, that guns enable crime (not cause it). You can agree or disagree with these statements, and that’s fine, but that’s better than misrepresenting the arguments of your opponents.