Fun was had by all
Last night, I went to CCA to meet Les and CounterTop for some shooting. Also, got a chance to reveal my secret identity to Tam and Alston, which had an effect on Alston because, well, through a set of circumstances he knows me. We rented one of the subguns (an H&K MP-5, to be exact) and sent several hundred rounds down range. Then, the fun began when myself, Tam, Alston and another CCA employee began debating whether or not the grip on the new Sig 229 DAK is wider than the grip on the regular Sig 229. Three of us said yes. Coincidentally, SigArms’ website is silent on the issue but the DAK does weigh about an ounce more, which I’d say is in the grip.
Also, regarding my pending 9mm AR-15 project, Alston convinced me that the Colt system was the way to go. The two predominant 9mm systems on the market are the Colt system and the Olympic system. Both require mag blocks (though in the Olympic system, there are mags that have a block attached to them). I was going to go with the Olympic system at first because it uses unmodified Sten mags, which can be had for less than $5 each. The Olympic system is a bit more expensive when you don’t factor in the magazines. The Colt system uses proprietary Colt mags or modified Uzi mags. Colt mags run about $50 and Uzi mags run about $20 but can be modified for $5. Then, Alston informed me that Bushmaster was making Colt compatible, polymer magazines that held the bolt open after the last round was fired. In fact, they had three in stock. Bolt hold open is a nice feature and the mags were going for about $20. Any money saved by using the Sten mags became irrelevant unless you wanted 10 or more magazines. I was convinced. I’ll be getting the RRA upper receiver for my 9mm project.
Olympic is now offering a system that uses Glock magazines, which is pretty neat.
Also, if you’re interested in a 9mm, check out arfcom’s 9mm AR FAQ.
December 23rd, 2005 at 3:07 pm
I wish that I had been there with you.
I have been doing a lot of quality shooting there recently.
Renting the MP 5 is a blast – particularly for only $20.
Who had the new Sig? Did you shoot it.
Sig is making some pretty good looking guns these days.
December 23rd, 2005 at 3:39 pm
It was my old sig and I was comparing it to the new one. I like the DAK concept and the rail and the spurless hammer. May have to trade in for one. I should have invited you but i was unsure until the last minute if I could make it.
December 23rd, 2005 at 5:19 pm
Had a blast (literally). The MP5 put a SIHT eating grin on my face that lasted the rest of the drive down. Of course, I thought the fun was when I got to pick up a .50 BMG for the first time 🙂
We’ll have to do it again, and if you get to DC ever . . . .
December 23rd, 2005 at 7:12 pm
Fun stuff. We’ll have to do it again.
December 23rd, 2005 at 11:07 pm
I will look forward to it.
December 26th, 2005 at 11:08 am
[…] Perusing the 9mm AR-15 FAQ at AR-15.com, I’ve changed my mind again and think I’ll probably stick with the Olympic system. The reason is the hammer. The Colt system requires a 9mm hammer which will not work with a 5.56 upper. The Olympic system uses a standard hammer. I like to keep my toys compatible. […]
April 4th, 2006 at 11:36 am
[…] We’ve had these in the past (a few times) and they are great fun. […]