Scout Rifles
Yeah, I don’t think they’re that good an idea but I am reminded by reader Dave of the cheap scout rifle and Mosin as scout rifle.
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November 22nd, 2006 at 11:45 am
Personally I like the concept of the scout rifle. I love the socom-16 from Springfield.
But the Mosin-Nagant carbine is a cruel device. I have a T-38 and it takes a real masochist to shoot that thing on a regular basis. I like to pull it out when you get the real manly braggers who claim that there isn’t any gun that they don’t enjoy shooting. (I usually add some czech machine gun ammo in 7.62x54R for extra hot rounds just to make my point.)
I don’t think I’d use the Mosin, nor the Lee-Enfield No. 5 mk 1. Both are more firepower than weight and just don’t allow for as much control as you’d really like. But everyone has their preferences.
November 22nd, 2006 at 1:06 pm
There are a LOT of yugo mauser 24/47s out there right now for jsut about $100.
They’ve got great metal, but no finish and buggered up wood.
I figure it’s an ideal candidate to turn into a scout rifle.
November 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Chris,
SOG had Turk mausers for $60. I love my C&R….
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:09 pm
Maybe it’s my old eyes, but the point of a scout rifle never appealed. That de rigeur scope doesn’t do it for me. I can see a short rifle with decent open, ghost, or holo sights in the normal positions, but what’s the point of that scope? Have I believed in the wrong definition of ‘scout’ all these years?
November 23rd, 2006 at 3:00 am
I don’t even understand the topic. I have four MN’s two M44’s, one M91/30, one M91. None have a scope, nor are they seriously deficient because of it. I also have an L1A1 that doesn’t have a scope, just aperture rear sight. Makes one hole with an entire magazine, why would I need a scope? I can’t see far enough to realize a threat at scope distance. At effective ranges the sights that come with the pieces work very well. I gave my son-in-law an M59 which is the most accurate gun I have ever shot, I truly wish he would give it back. But, I love him and will not ask him. I should probably go to bed, but I love my MN’s and my FN/FAl. i I have others, but they don’t have the history that turns me on. We old bastards are really into history, Hell for us, it was current events.
November 25th, 2006 at 7:46 pm
Deficient? Certainly not. As I recall, Simo Haya had something like 542 confirmed kills with an unscoped M28 Mosin Nagant.
http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp
November 28th, 2006 at 8:50 pm
Three things I’d like to say from my personal experiance-
1. Mosins don’t kick that hard if your standing, as your body will simply take the recoil like it does when you shoot your 12 bore. Most people don’t get past the sighting bench because of the recoil on these rifles, but lucky my freind did and encouraged me to try standing. Don’t forget, most older rifles, esspecially from europe, were made to be fired from a standing position.
2. The Purpose of the forward mounted scope is to increase speed. When shooting with a normal scope, you must find your target in the scope, then you can fire. Even the fastest shooters take a moment to do it. With the scout, you look at your target, put the scope inbetween your eye and the target, and fire, just like with scoped pistols.
3. Last, not everyone needs a scope. Just ’cause its popular doesn’t mean you need to transfigure all your rifles. the scout rifle has advantages that appeal to many people, like myself, but my shooting buddies hate them. I like scopes but my competion guns will never be scoped because that isn’t my style.
Opinion is why we live in a free country, so hear people out, if they make sence, give it a try, and if you don’t like it, you don’t have to appologise, just say, “nice, but not for me…”