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we’re all doomed

Heh:

Let me start out by saying I consider myself smarter than most people… Not better, not happier, not funnier, not more inclined to make a real difference… Just smarter, or not as dumb, which is more accurate

Update: Why are pacifists always angry?

4 Responses to “we’re all doomed”

  1. Ron W Says:

    Although I’m not for expending American treasure and blood in Iraq or anywhere without defending our own borders first and a Constitutional Declaration of War, I am by no means an anti-war pacifist! But one needs not bootlick the New World Order agenda to prove that!

    “In defense of the world Order, U.S. soldiers would have to kill and die. … We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood, as well as in words and money.”– Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. July/August 1993 issue of Foreign Affairs, flagship publication of the Council on Foreign Relations

    I am for armed self-defense by our own nation AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, the citizens.

    Sean Penn and other supposed anti-war pacifists should at least commend the President for pacifistically allowing our nation to be invaded. They are all for that–just like Bush now has Pelosi as an ally for the pacifist agenda of open borders, appeasement and accommodation of illegal immigration AND whatever enemy terrorist wants to enter.

    But IF, IF Sean Penn was a true pacifist, he wouldn’t support the likes of Nazi-Commie Pelosi wanting to disarm us and impose his pacifism on us–with hired guns.

  2. Sigivald Says:

    Well, there’s a common semi-serious belief that someone’s political beliefs are strongly formed by their own foibles; the common example is libertarians opposing government power because of individual tendencies to want to exercise it.

    (IE, a thoughtful individual notices that he has a tendency to think that the state should “do something about” problems. Individual realises that that’s not a great solution, and assuming his mental state to be universal, becomes a libertarian, on the grounds that since “everyone” wants the state to do such things, the way to prevent abuses is to prevent the state having the power.

    Similarly, the application to Leftists is that they’re selfish bastards who won’t act voluntarily for a common good, and thus they assume nobody else will, so the state must force such actions. The application to (social) Conservatives would be they’re susceptible to temptation to moral rot, and thus think it needs extra enforcement, etc.)

    If we don’t reject the theory -as perhaps we should- as facile and undisprovable, we conclude (possibly accurately, even if the general theory is false) that pacifists become pacifists because they’re already angry, and assume everyone else is angry and violent, and thus think pacifism is the only way out.

    There is a certain sleekness to the theory, isn’t there?

  3. Sigivald Says:

    PS, Ron. Congress thinks it “declared war” well enough, Constitutionally.

    The magic words “Declare” and “War” are not required for Constitutional purposes, and the AUMF suffices, both according to legal scholarship and the beliefs of the Representatives and Senators who passed it.

    The Constitution does not specify a formula for a declaration of war, but merely reserves the power to Congress.

    If Congress thinks it’s “declaring war” for legal purposes, and does something that all parties understand and believe to be a legal “declaration of war”, how is it not Constitutionally such an action?

    What’s lacking?

  4. Ron W Says:

    Sigivald,

    Why didn’t Bush ask Congress for a Declaration of War against the government of Iraq, then it would be our war instead of Bush”s (or whatever presidential warlord who happens to be in office). So why not have our Congress declare war IF we know the enemy and (he/it) needs to be defeated by us??

    Then we could take down the regime, the enemy and LEAVE. Define an enemy, defeat the enemy and say don’t make us come back!! Establishing “democracy” is NOT a Constitutional “delegated power” since our founders absolutely rejected “democracy” and our Constitutional “guarantees a republican form of government”. (Article IV, Section 4)

    “A democracy (an elective despotism) is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the
    people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
    -Thomas Jefferson

    “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders
    itself.” — John Adams

    “The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open
    or secret war with the rights of mankind.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “Democracies have ever been the spectacle of turbulence and contention; have
    ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property;
    and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in
    their deaths.” – Federalist Papers No. 10

    And what about “the United States SHALL…protect the States against invasion”?? ( also in Article IV, Section 4) IF THEY SAY we are in a war on terrorism, then those terrorists have NO delivery systems to attack us. The only way these enemy terrorists (I’m assuming that’s who practices terrorism against us) can attack us is if our own government allows them to enter and stay. To do so when they say we’re at war, is to “give aid and comfort” to the enemy… and Article III, Section 3 defines that as “treason”.

    Our real “domestic enemies” (CFR Republicans and Democrats) are those who allow our nation to be invaded and then impose their so-called pacifism on us by disarming us with their hired guns…paid for by us!!

Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.

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