I won’t bet eating at a Pizza Hut any more
A pizza hut employee says he feared for his life when he shot at armed robbers. But the company says he violated policy and fired him.
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June 15th, 2007 at 10:51 am
Say, Uncle (I’m such a riot), why don’t we start compiling a list of anti-gun businesses. You linked to my American Signature Furniture’s equating CCW holders with criminals article and that has helped put the article on the first page of a Google search for them!
Blogs are great for generating actual discourse on topics which benefits rankings in search engines. Constantly talking about firms like Pizza Hut and American Signature Furniture or linking to pro-gun articles helps out the issue up in front.
Just a thought. Someone could probably write a script that could be placed in sidebars that keep the links fresh and constantly updated or something.
June 15th, 2007 at 10:53 am
They did this on another occasion too. I believe it was a year or two ago. Pizza Hut driver in either Indiana or Ohio pumped 15 rounds of 9mm into a guy that pulled a gun on him. It was ruled justifiable, but Pizza Hut canned him for his actions.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
I’m all for that. There should be a cost to businesses that promote an unsafe environment for their customers.
Most companies just ban guns out of fear of liability if an employee shoots someone. It’s an easy decision because there’s nothing on the other side to weigh.
June 15th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Beat ya to it.
Robb, the NRA already has a huge list. But I’m sure there are plenty to add (let’s see… Pizza Hut, Disney…)
June 15th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Absolutely right! When I go to a restaurant, I want to make sure of three things:
Can I get a good table by the window?
Did you fly in the daily catch from Alaska?
Are you packing?
June 15th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
I used to work for PH and they make you sign an agreement about having no weapons while being a driver, or on the premises. The employee had to have known that and he violated that agreement, so PH is within its rights to fire him. It’s absolutely a fear of liability issue.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Well hate to have to go against the grin here but let’s look at the facts. The Guy was not fired for defending his life, the perps were in the act of fleeing, the guy knowingly violated company policy by carrying a concealed gun to work. The guy makes the claim that if not for his gun he would have been dead, but frankly, the facts don’t support that assertion. Makes for good copy I suppose.
Frankly I think you all would do better by listing the companies that actually allow people to carry a concealed gun while on the job. I would think it would be a much shorter list. Mike is absolutely right, the liability issues involved for allowing employees to carry a concealed weapon while on the job make it such that I would bet no large company allows it. So while you are making your list of which places to do business you might as well get used to the fact that there will be no where to shop or dine other then sole proprietorships where the owner is the one carrying and assuming the liability personally (I used to work in the gem industry and this was fairly common).
I would also question the idea that a public work place is “unsafe” unless they allow people to carry concealed weapons. That is kind characterization is frankly silly given the fact that your chances of dying in a public place by pistol waving robbers is 1000 time more unlikely then almost any other hazard you could think of that might cause you harm.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
against the grain, no grin … well either way 🙂
June 15th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Rick, you are right about PH being within their rights. I’m just saying they are bastards for making “no weapons” the rule.
If the country wasn’t so lawsuit-happy, there wouldn’t be a problem with an employee shooting a criminal, then the criminal suing the company. If we can cut back on frivolous lawsuits, then perhaps less companies will be pissing their pants about it.
June 15th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
[…] have no problem contributing to this cause. Their pizza sucks […]
June 15th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
I surmise that Rick left off the “ed” from his surname from his comments.
June 15th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Not unsafe, just less safe. I think Cho proves that point.
Personally, Rick, I think it’s up to you to prove that my carrying makes my work place more dangerous.
Now, all that said, I totally agree with the firing. It’s against store policy, the guy signed on knowing that. I agree with him in that I would have carried nonetheless, but that’s the risk you take.
I still will do my best to not patronize establishments that make it a point to insult me by equating me with criminals. I will not rob a store. I will not threaten an employee. I will defend myself. Period.
June 16th, 2007 at 7:37 am
I believe it would be a much shorter list to name the ones that do allow. I have noticed, as I drift from blog to blog and discover new ones, there is major differences in the Concealed carry state to state. I live in Texas and seldom carry out of state. When I do I generally look for the “legal way to transport” and drive on from there. I am finding that states have a tendency to encourage the victim to try to get away before using the concealed weapon.
Seems like there is a lot more out there that needs to be changed before the righeous act of self defense becomes the right intended in the 2nd amendment.
Jerry
June 16th, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Jerry,
WHAT? I don’t understand your point. Would you care to expand / clarify?
CJ
June 17th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Not only do they deny employees the right to defend themselves and have crappy pizza but their official site is available in spanish!
June 18th, 2007 at 8:25 am
Personally, Rick, I think it’s up to you to prove that my carrying makes my work place more dangerous.
If I were to assert such I might be inclined, I didn’t so I won’t. I said that, given the fairly low statistical rate of death in a workplace from gun wielding assailants the notion that a workplace is less safe because the employees can’t carry concealed weapons is patent nonsense. The story made it very clear that had the employee in question not had a gun no one would have been harmed in any way sine the guy had to run after the perps in order to shoot them. Frankly this guy didn’t need to defend himself, the perps were fleeing. Quit the contrary, by opening fire in a situation were gun play had not broken out, he could very well have gotten an innocent person killed thus making the situation more dangerous then it was.
I still will do my best to not patronize establishments that make it a point to insult me by equating me with criminals.
That would mean you do not patronize almost any corporate establishment since there is no company on the planet where an employee is allowed to pack. If you are talking about only yourself as a patron then you might find a few more, but for the most part your stuck local businesses. Good luck.
I surmise that Rick left off the “ed” from his surname from his comments.
glad we can engage in honest, sober discussion free of ad hominem here 🙂