Ron Paul: end the drug war
A video of Ron Paul stating we should end the drug war. Now, I don’t think Ron Paul has a chance in Hell of winning the election. But I am glad that someone is talking about this issue. I’m also surprised since this is an issue that is usually verboten at political debates because it’s complex and, essentially, goes against everything the .gov is telling your kids in high school. In debates, you can never ask a question like:
So, the drug war costs billions and billions and billions of dollars. Many innocent, peaceable citizens have been needlessly killed by a police force that has been essentially militarized. People are not secure in their homes because of no knock warrants and search warrants issued based on the frequently false testimony of criminals. Property is taken and lives are destroyed over a few minuscule amounts of drugs. Is it worth that price to confiscate an infinitesimally small fraction of a percent of the drug supply in this country?
Maybe we should get as many people as possible to ask that question on the next youtube debate thingy.
End the drug war and release the prisoners.
Oh, and Paul’s opponents will now say that Ron Paul is soft on crime.
September 28th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
[…] Say Uncle agrees with Ron Paul above that the War on Drugs should be repealed and its prisioners released. He believes that there is not enough talk about this issue in the presidential debates and suggests this as a question that should be asked: So, the drug war costs billions and billions and billions of dollars. Many innocent, peaceable citizens have been needlessly killed by a police force that has been essentially militarized. People are not secure in their homes because of no knock warrants and search warrants issued based on the frequently false testimony of criminals. Property is taken and lives are destroyed over a few minuscule amounts of drugs. Is it worth that price to confiscate an infinitesimally small fraction of a percent of the drug supply in this country? Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. […]
September 28th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
One of the many things I like about Paul. Totally unelectable as POTUS, but we need more Pauls in the Legislative branch. As a single man, he cannot get what he wants done, period (the president doesn’t have that much power).
Of course, his views on foreign policy are nutty and he thinks 9/11 was our fault. So for all his good, he’s a loon.
September 28th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
I agree with him that the Drug War should be ended. I don’t think he’s soft on crime though and actually disagree with him on the marijuana issue. He would hand it over to the States. I would hand it over to the people. The state does not have any right to keep you from consuming what you choose, neither do the feds. States would not be able to effectively combat marijuana anyway. That would create a clusterfunk more than already exists.
September 28th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Nah, not for that anyway. Paul is off his rocker, but you know what they say about stopped clocks.
September 28th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Robb… he doesn’t think 9/11 was your fault. You aren’t an elected official that created bunk foreign policy.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Robb, you need to do more research before you make a fool of yourself again. You’re probably one of those people that still think Iraq had something to do with 911.
Chris, RP would end prohibition, meaning that he would obey the constitution and let this fall back to the states and people. How the states handle it would be a different matter, the first step is ending the war. His personal belief is probably that people should decide what to put in their own bodies.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Brody, you might want to take your own advice. But I forget, I’m dissing “RON PAUL THE ONLY FUCKING PERSON WHO CAN SAVE THE WHOLE WORLD!!!!” which brings out the Ronnites by the droves.
Chris, that’s as asinine as blaming the rape victim for wearing a short skirt.
Like I said, there are hundreds of things to like about Ron Paul and I wish we had more people like him in office, but he would make a poor president since his absolutist stance would never get anywhere.
I like using libertarianism to guide my political views, but Big-L Libertarians fail on the same way communists do – looks great on paper but the damn humans keep f*cking it up.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
I guess alcohol Prohibition worked so well we need a whole bunch more of the same.
Oh, and Germany didn’t have anything to do with Pearl Harbor either.
Oh, and there was very little violence in Normandy before the Allies invaded the place, then there was a lot. I guess, based on that, and on the above, we should have let the Nazis take over the world. They never directly attacked the U.S. before December 1941 after all.
But I suppose such subtitles are completely lost on most people.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
WOnder if he would stand a chance if the polls were not rigged, they are kinda like statistics, depending on where ya get up there may be varying results:
Straw Poll Date Rank Votes
Mackinac Island – Michigan Republican Leadership Conference 9/23/2007 3 10.8%
Palmetto Family Council Straw Poll 9/20/2007 2 33.0%
Manchester, NH Straw Poll 9/16/2007 1 65.0%
South Dakota Straw Poll 9/3/2007 6 8.0 %
Maryland Straw Poll 9/3/2007 1 27.3%
Texas Straw Poll 9/1/2007 3 16.7 %
Allegheny County, Pennsylvania 8/26/2007 1 45.2 %
DeKalb County, Georgia Straw Poll 8/25/2007 1 24.0 %
HRCC (Minnesota) 8/22/2007 3 16.0%
Ronald Reagan Club (Washington) 8/21/2007 1 28.0%
West Alabama 8/18/2007 1 81.2%
Strafford County, NH 8/18/2007 1 72.2%
West Lafayette, Indiana 8/18/2007 4 11.7%
Illinois State Fair 8/17/2007 3 18.9%
Students for Life of America 8/16/2007 4 9.0%
Western Montana Fair 8/15/2007 6 4.0%
Gaston County, NC 8/14/2007 1 36.6%
Ames, Iowa 8/11/2007 5 9.1%
National Federation of Republican Assemblies (NFRA), St. Louis, MO 8/6/2007 3 14.0%
FreedomWorks Straw Poll 8/3/2007 1 56.0 %
Georgetown County, SC 7/28/2007 2 17.9%
New Hampshire Taxpayers 7/7/2007 1 65.3%
Cobb County, GA 7/4/2007 2 17.0%
California Republican Assembly 7/1/2007 4 12.0%
National Taxpayers Union 6/16/2007 2 16.7%
Utah GOP convention 6/8/2007 2 5.4%
Dr. Paul does not BLAME America for the attacks like so much of the main stream media sells, but rather bad policy over the years that has been the fault of many administrations. Now whether that is fact is open for debate but it is his opinion and unlike the other candidates he does share his views openly and does not sell a point depending on what crowd he is speaking with. I just wish people would take the time to study his comments and then read his stances on certain things instead of allowing the media to translate what Dr. Paul is saying. In most Left and Right websites he is the anti christ, and everything that you read on main stream is usually opposite from his intended message. Please read the words from the horses mouth, and although he may very well not be electable I think on election day as the polls come in it will be obvious that there are many many people that are ready for drastic change from the politicos that have robbed us blind for so long. Guess we will see in 18 months what We The People have to say about him. Perhaps it is my own little pipe dream that in my life time there will be a man or woman strong enough to stand for the constitution and enough Americans that are not falling for the media spin. Sadly, I doubt it.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/
BT
September 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
I prefer having the addicts, the pushers, and the drugs than having a police state where innocent people are killed by the state for no consequence to the killers.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Ron Paul is soft on crime.
September 28th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Well, OK, I don’t really believe that, and I actually agree with Uncle. But someone had to say it!
September 28th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
None of which gave any legitimate reason to use innocent lives inside airplanes to attack us. Period.
However, there are plenty of issues, such as the drug war, that I’m 100% with. Same with telling the UN to f’ off and kick them out. However, many of the things he stands for cannot be done simply with the wave of a pen or the support of the people or the government. Such a massive change in short order would hurt us – burn the village to save it kind of thing.
Honestly, if it’s an Obama vs. JulieAnna race, I’ll probably vote Paul to send a clear message to the GOP to stick it since I don’t fear an Obama presidency. But if it’s Hillary!… well, I’m afraid Ron Paul will suck off enough conservative leaning votes to put her in office.
September 28th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
“I prefer having the addicts, the pushers, and the drugs than having a police state where innocent people are killed by the state for no consequence to the killers.”
Straightarrow: It’s not am either/or decision. This is very important for everyone to understand. You don’t see pushers and gang wars over alcohol sales anymore, yet such things were rampant during the Prohibition period.
There is a high demand for aspirin, yet we do not see clandestine, home aspirin labs in trailer parks putting out sub standard aspirin and risking chemical accidents.
These things are caused by prohibition, wherein criminals enjoy a government-enforced monopoly and all the profits and official corruption that goes along with high profit, illicit trade.
Legalize it and the pushers and scum bags are out of business practically overnight– along with the (Ahem!) multi-billion dollar drug intradiction business.
September 29th, 2007 at 5:12 am
“Now, I don’t think Ron Paul has a chance in Hell of winning the election.”
That’s why I won’t visit your blog again, you’re a fool. I stopped reading after that.
good bye, you lost a visitor
September 29th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
I think Joseph has some reality issues.
Seriously, if you think Ron Paul has a rat turd’s chance in the Mississippi, you’re delusional.
September 30th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
You know what? I just decided that the Ronulans are spammers. When/if they show up on my site, all OT “Ron is teh GR8!!!1!” posts are going right into the spam bin.
I also like how Joseph the Spammer never showed up until he decided that he would never read again.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:45 am
“End the drug war and release the prisoners.” OK, I guess it’s time to sign up to have some of these poor misunderstood Jamaican Posse and Mara Salvatruca 13 guys rent the place next door to all y’all who are volunteering to let them out of prison.
Send me an email, perhaps I can get you a rap sheet or two of some of the better candidates for your new neighbors, just so you can spell their names correctly on the Welcome Wagon gift baskets, of course.
How y’all can be so pumped up to win the war against Radical Islam, which wants to wipe us off the face of the earth, and be so for losing the war against these drug gang jerks, who want to do the exact same thing, is beyond me. I have a simple rule: if you are an a**hole, you are my enemy. If you are a religious a**hole, or a druggie a**hole, it makes no difference, you are still my enemy. Civilize yourself, and I don’t care what stripes you wear or what flavor your smoke. If you’re uncivilized, you’re my target.
Yes, folks, it really is just that simple. Ron Paul offers himself up as a simple soldier of the Constitution, but he’s a bit too complex to see the simple truth I live by.
October 1st, 2007 at 9:39 am
Even Einstein was called crazy, but I guess the people of his day were as intellegent as they are today to consider Dr. Paul a loon, but to all their own. I am not a Ron Pauler as far as causing disruptions in a public discussion, but I will share my opinion. So starting today I will stop biotching about the 1st and 2nd amendment, about illegal immigration, about eminent domain, about the drug war, about Iraq, as I am changing my blog to a whole sale store for one thing only, the “Don’t blame me, I voted for Ron Paul” bumper stickers…lol
October 1st, 2007 at 10:21 am
I would like to also add that the people that say that Ron Paul is soft on crime really make me wonder. SayUcle’s site is based on the 2nd amendment, gun rights, gun safety and education, with a touch of politico madness in the mix. We all know that if the Jamaican Posse and Mara Salvatruca 13 gangs were in our neighborhoods we would be skaroo’d if we depended on the police to protect us. The entire basis of having a home firearm is for self defense and preservation due to the lack or inability for the police to provide protection, hell they are too busy sitting in high traffic areas ticketing your kids for cruising. So it begs the question, how is Ron Paul soft on crime? I think the ones that are soft on crime are the ones that have allowed 40,000 illegal alien gang members to reside in Los Angeles…
In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.
• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.
Now that we have some stats (from http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html)
Who is really soft on crime? Hillary who is pro amnesty or Rudy who ran one of the largest cities full of illegal immigrants. He says there was nothing he could do, but strangely enough there are sheriffs across the country that are taking matters into their own hands to make sure the letter of law is followed. So when you refer to soft on crime, I think I know who you are referring to.
P.S. Sales are too slow on the bumper stickers, hhad to keep rambling on…
October 1st, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Interesting logic, that. “Everyone thought Einstein [or Galileo, or whoever] was nuts, but he was right. Everyone thinks I’m nuts, therefore, I must be right, too.” O-kay.