I do not – for one second – believe that the data from the records cannot be tainted or altered.
Especially considering it took 3 days for the data to be provided in this case.
Disturbing.
You could also title this ‘like you and me, only better’, because these off-duty police officers were not required to call the police and allow the property to be stolen. They (because of their “special status”) took the action themselves, even failing to identify themselves as police. We couldn’t do that. We’d be in jail.
Hogwash.
And they wonder why they get no cooperation from the “civilians”.
Something I’ve always wondered about these ‘gun shot detectors’ – are they able to distinguish the sound of a gun shot from the sound of a firecracker dropped down a piece of pipe?
KCSteve they distinguish explosives by profiling the sound so if you dropped a firecracker down a piece of pipe you should get a similar profile on the sound(less sharp and radial like a firecracker and more rumbling and directed like a gun). Therefore I suspect that you could fool the system with pipes and firecrackers.
They have gun shot sensors in DC. Not sure why, since guns are illegal there.
I think they’re there to prove that the gun ban is working. After all, if it didn’t work, those sensors might actually sense something every now and then.
Either that, or they’re to detect incoming shots from VA and MD.
The gunshot sensors are a relatively new thing in DC-the idea is to increase the speed and accuracy of police response when the nonexistent guns are being used by the bad guys. The evidence they collect is not meant to be used in court-in other words they are a tool meant for police work, not a tool meant for prosecution. The interesting thing about the WaPo story is that the sensor data in this case was leaked in an obvious attempt to reframe the story from “cowboy cops screwing up big time” to that of “police officer protecting himself from armed thug”. Well, they did screw up big time in this case-the two officers failed to follow proper procedure from the start and lost control of the crime scene when things went bad. Now the DC police have got to explain how they lost the one piece of evidence (the missing handgun) that would clear these two cops (even if they did act like fools) and this story is part of that effort. Heads should roll, but they won’t.
I’m sure the sensors can be gamed but what is more likely is that they’ll end up getting destroyed by the local thugs once they know what to look for.
November 1st, 2007 at 10:07 am
Big Brother is listening too?
November 1st, 2007 at 1:34 pm
To punish law breakers of course. It’s the easiest way to know you don’t have your weapons locked up in your own home.
November 1st, 2007 at 2:21 pm
The police want a recording to justify a slow response since they know you’re already dead.
November 1st, 2007 at 2:38 pm
I do not – for one second – believe that the data from the records cannot be tainted or altered.
Especially considering it took 3 days for the data to be provided in this case.
Disturbing.
You could also title this ‘like you and me, only better’, because these off-duty police officers were not required to call the police and allow the property to be stolen. They (because of their “special status”) took the action themselves, even failing to identify themselves as police. We couldn’t do that. We’d be in jail.
Hogwash.
And they wonder why they get no cooperation from the “civilians”.
November 1st, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Something I’ve always wondered about these ‘gun shot detectors’ – are they able to distinguish the sound of a gun shot from the sound of a firecracker dropped down a piece of pipe?
November 1st, 2007 at 3:44 pm
KCSteve they distinguish explosives by profiling the sound so if you dropped a firecracker down a piece of pipe you should get a similar profile on the sound(less sharp and radial like a firecracker and more rumbling and directed like a gun). Therefore I suspect that you could fool the system with pipes and firecrackers.
November 1st, 2007 at 7:22 pm
I think they’re there to prove that the gun ban is working. After all, if it didn’t work, those sensors might actually sense something every now and then.
Either that, or they’re to detect incoming shots from VA and MD.
November 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 am
The gunshot sensors are a relatively new thing in DC-the idea is to increase the speed and accuracy of police response when the nonexistent guns are being used by the bad guys. The evidence they collect is not meant to be used in court-in other words they are a tool meant for police work, not a tool meant for prosecution. The interesting thing about the WaPo story is that the sensor data in this case was leaked in an obvious attempt to reframe the story from “cowboy cops screwing up big time” to that of “police officer protecting himself from armed thug”. Well, they did screw up big time in this case-the two officers failed to follow proper procedure from the start and lost control of the crime scene when things went bad. Now the DC police have got to explain how they lost the one piece of evidence (the missing handgun) that would clear these two cops (even if they did act like fools) and this story is part of that effort. Heads should roll, but they won’t.
I’m sure the sensors can be gamed but what is more likely is that they’ll end up getting destroyed by the local thugs once they know what to look for.