I suppose it would be beating a dead horse (or cow) to point out yet another example of media cluelessness about firearms, but the original article contained this passage:
The photos included one image of police seeking to catch the cows as they roamed a creek, while the other was the clear photo of Danville Police Officer Jerry Zeidler shooting one of the cows with a rifle.
From what I see, that’s a standard-issue police shotgun, prolly a Mossberg or a Winchester.
But the shotgun could of had a rifled barrel designed for shooting slugs, therefore making it a rifle (or at least a slug-gun)and not a shotgun. In fact I would assume that they were using slugs on a cow to kill it as shot would not work as well, and then it would not be a “shot”gun even if it had a smooth barrel. Kind of makes me think when there was an auction for Annie Oakley’s “Smooth Bore Rifle”? If it is a smooth bore then it is not a rifle. Granted I am using a few technicality’s here and most likely the paper did not properly identify what they were talking about, as usual. But it does go to highlight that we in the gun community have misnomers as well, like the shotgun/slug-gun issue and clip/mag and smooth bore rifles. When is a gun what it is not, if I use shot shells in a rifle what is it then? At least the media did not label and assault. wepon
I’m wondering what the reason for shooting the cow was. Seems like it would be easier to move half a ton of beef if it were self propelled rather than have to forklift it out of wherever it was. At any rate, it looks like the PBA has this weekend’s barbeque menu all set.
If I had to bet I’d say the photo is doctored. It’s just that I’ve photographed a lot of shooting, both still and video. It is often possible to capture a muzzle flash like that, but the projectile(s) in this photo would already have hit the target by the time the flame had developed that far. The perspective seem off a bit too, doesn’t it? It seems the cop is aiming too far to his left to hit the beast.
But I don’t have to bet, so I won’t.
Christopher: I don’t know if cops carry rifled slug guns, do they? Wouldn’t the main purpose be to have the buckshot/scattergun capability and wouldn’t a rifled bore screw that up (as it were)? Seems to me a dedicated slug gun would be an awfully specialized weapon for general patrol carry, but I’m not a cop.
I was just going though a semantical exercise. I doubt that law enforcement officers carry slug guns. But a “shot”gun that is shooting a slug is no longer a “shot”gun. I did state that the newspaper in all likelihood had it messed up, as always. I guess that a door breaching round would make it a “powder”gun instead!
December 6th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
I suppose it would be beating a dead horse (or cow) to point out yet another example of media cluelessness about firearms, but the original article contained this passage:
From what I see, that’s a standard-issue police shotgun, prolly a Mossberg or a Winchester.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Captain Holly,
But the shotgun could of had a rifled barrel designed for shooting slugs, therefore making it a rifle (or at least a slug-gun)and not a shotgun. In fact I would assume that they were using slugs on a cow to kill it as shot would not work as well, and then it would not be a “shot”gun even if it had a smooth barrel. Kind of makes me think when there was an auction for Annie Oakley’s “Smooth Bore Rifle”? If it is a smooth bore then it is not a rifle. Granted I am using a few technicality’s here and most likely the paper did not properly identify what they were talking about, as usual. But it does go to highlight that we in the gun community have misnomers as well, like the shotgun/slug-gun issue and clip/mag and smooth bore rifles. When is a gun what it is not, if I use shot shells in a rifle what is it then? At least the media did not label and assault. wepon
December 6th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
I’m wondering what the reason for shooting the cow was. Seems like it would be easier to move half a ton of beef if it were self propelled rather than have to forklift it out of wherever it was. At any rate, it looks like the PBA has this weekend’s barbeque menu all set.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
If I had to bet I’d say the photo is doctored. It’s just that I’ve photographed a lot of shooting, both still and video. It is often possible to capture a muzzle flash like that, but the projectile(s) in this photo would already have hit the target by the time the flame had developed that far. The perspective seem off a bit too, doesn’t it? It seems the cop is aiming too far to his left to hit the beast.
But I don’t have to bet, so I won’t.
Christopher: I don’t know if cops carry rifled slug guns, do they? Wouldn’t the main purpose be to have the buckshot/scattergun capability and wouldn’t a rifled bore screw that up (as it were)? Seems to me a dedicated slug gun would be an awfully specialized weapon for general patrol carry, but I’m not a cop.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Ah thank you Tom Lehrer (the Hunting Song)…
‘and a pure bred Jersey Cow’
(first thing that sprang to mind)
December 6th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Lyle,
I was just going though a semantical exercise. I doubt that law enforcement officers carry slug guns. But a “shot”gun that is shooting a slug is no longer a “shot”gun. I did state that the newspaper in all likelihood had it messed up, as always. I guess that a door breaching round would make it a “powder”gun instead!
December 7th, 2007 at 6:14 am
It wasn’t a COW, it was a “SLOW ELK” …
😉