A perplexing issue handled well. Thanks for the link!
Carry methods such as using a shoulder holster or a fanny pack that can be slung cross-body from your opposite shoulder while sitting can alleviate some of the problems encountered with IWB holsters in this situation. They do present other problems which need to be balanced against the ‘potty problem’ when choosing your preferred method of concealed carry. A belt slide would be even more problematic in a public restroom if you have to unthread it from your belt. Particularly if you are in a hurry…
As a birthday/Christmas present to myself I recently bought a Maxpedition Fatboy along with the accessory CCW holster. The ad claims they can carry a full sized 1911. They can, but it’s a tightish fit and presents some snag issues when drawing. A smaller gun should work quite well with this pack though. And being designed to be carried cross-body like the repositioned fanny pack mentioned in the previous paragraph, you are all set to ‘go’ as soon as you get there. 😉
People pay money to that guy and he carrys in a $10 holster?
If you need to drop a deuce:
1) If you have a good IWB holster that won’t fall off when you undress, leave the gun in there.
2) You can rotate your pants/gun so that the grip is inbetween your ankles.
3) Don’t fall asleep or take a wide stance and your boom(twig?) should be safe from the jiggaboos.
Let’s remember 2 simple rules for carry to make sure our potty procedure is within the framework:
1) Only draw your weapon if you are going to shoot someone.
2) The whole purpose of concealing is to not let anyone know you are, therefore;
2a) Don’t tell anyone you are
2b) Buy good equipment to make sure you never print or expose the weapon.
There you have it gents – now you don’t have to be afraid to take a shit in public if you follow these rules.
People pay money to that guy and he carrys in a $10 holster?
I started a self defense course for violent crime survivors 17 years ago, and I specialize in the disabled and elderly. Most of my students are pretty much penniless since they can no longer work, and can’t afford anything better than nylon holsters. It would be rather hypocritical of me to suggest something cheap-but-adequate for them so they can afford ammo for training while I turned my nose up at the same gear.
Besides, I pay for my student’s ammo and range time out of my own pocket while they are taking the course. Every $70 I save means that there is one more person who won’t be a victim the next time around.
I’m with you James. A holster or scabbard is for carrying the weapon. Period. It isn’t a fashion accessory nor should it be a snob appeal item. It doesn’t matter if it costs ten dollars or ten thousand dollars. What matters is that it does the job of keeping the firearm with you and accessible should you need it.
You don’t need one from Tiffany’s or Cartier to be effective. Effectiveness is what it is about.
No downed bad guy ever gave a thought to the price of the holster from which the firearm was drawn, nor do they get a pass if it doesn’t meet a certain price criterion.
Yea but when the little plastic clippy thing flops over when you loosen your best and the gun falls out, that doesn’t imply a functioning holster to me. I’m not trying to be snobby, but it’s important to have decent gear if you’re going to carry every day otherwise it will probably feel uncomfortable and you’ll start questioning taking it with you.
Yea but when the little plastic clippy thing flops over when you loosen your best and the gun falls out, that doesn’t imply a functioning holster to me.
I would certainly agree with you if that ever happened. So far, I suppose I’ve been lucky.
If you take a look at the pictures of my holster, you will see that it doesn’t have a restraining strap. It used to, but I cut it off when I found that it really wasn’t needed.
December 27th, 2007 at 11:51 am
I always just tuck it under my armpit when I’m in the stall.
December 27th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
A perplexing issue handled well. Thanks for the link!
Carry methods such as using a shoulder holster or a fanny pack that can be slung cross-body from your opposite shoulder while sitting can alleviate some of the problems encountered with IWB holsters in this situation. They do present other problems which need to be balanced against the ‘potty problem’ when choosing your preferred method of concealed carry. A belt slide would be even more problematic in a public restroom if you have to unthread it from your belt. Particularly if you are in a hurry…
As a birthday/Christmas present to myself I recently bought a Maxpedition Fatboy along with the accessory CCW holster. The ad claims they can carry a full sized 1911. They can, but it’s a tightish fit and presents some snag issues when drawing. A smaller gun should work quite well with this pack though. And being designed to be carried cross-body like the repositioned fanny pack mentioned in the previous paragraph, you are all set to ‘go’ as soon as you get there. 😉
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December 27th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
People pay money to that guy and he carrys in a $10 holster?
If you need to drop a deuce:
1) If you have a good IWB holster that won’t fall off when you undress, leave the gun in there.
2) You can rotate your pants/gun so that the grip is inbetween your ankles.
3) Don’t fall asleep or take a wide stance and your boom(twig?) should be safe from the jiggaboos.
Let’s remember 2 simple rules for carry to make sure our potty procedure is within the framework:
1) Only draw your weapon if you are going to shoot someone.
2) The whole purpose of concealing is to not let anyone know you are, therefore;
2a) Don’t tell anyone you are
2b) Buy good equipment to make sure you never print or expose the weapon.
There you have it gents – now you don’t have to be afraid to take a shit in public if you follow these rules.
December 27th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
People pay money to that guy and he carrys in a $10 holster?
I started a self defense course for violent crime survivors 17 years ago, and I specialize in the disabled and elderly. Most of my students are pretty much penniless since they can no longer work, and can’t afford anything better than nylon holsters. It would be rather hypocritical of me to suggest something cheap-but-adequate for them so they can afford ammo for training while I turned my nose up at the same gear.
Besides, I pay for my student’s ammo and range time out of my own pocket while they are taking the course. Every $70 I save means that there is one more person who won’t be a victim the next time around.
James
December 28th, 2007 at 1:33 am
I’m with you James. A holster or scabbard is for carrying the weapon. Period. It isn’t a fashion accessory nor should it be a snob appeal item. It doesn’t matter if it costs ten dollars or ten thousand dollars. What matters is that it does the job of keeping the firearm with you and accessible should you need it.
You don’t need one from Tiffany’s or Cartier to be effective. Effectiveness is what it is about.
No downed bad guy ever gave a thought to the price of the holster from which the firearm was drawn, nor do they get a pass if it doesn’t meet a certain price criterion.
December 28th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Yea but when the little plastic clippy thing flops over when you loosen your best and the gun falls out, that doesn’t imply a functioning holster to me. I’m not trying to be snobby, but it’s important to have decent gear if you’re going to carry every day otherwise it will probably feel uncomfortable and you’ll start questioning taking it with you.
December 28th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
$10 is cheap? My most commonly used holster only cost $8.
December 28th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Yea but when the little plastic clippy thing flops over when you loosen your best and the gun falls out, that doesn’t imply a functioning holster to me.
I would certainly agree with you if that ever happened. So far, I suppose I’ve been lucky.
If you take a look at the pictures of my holster, you will see that it doesn’t have a restraining strap. It used to, but I cut it off when I found that it really wasn’t needed.
James