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1. ColtCCO Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 11:35 am

   By virtue of their US Mil. contract, they are, for the purposes of the ATF’s NFA branch, a military/govt. agency and purchase NFA firearms in much the same manner that, say, DEA or DHS does. Usually for export, and in most cases, they still can’t re-import them without going through the ATF hoops for importing MGs. I’ve bid out NFA firearms for stateside civilian contractors intending to export.

   I say it’s horseshit, but maybe I’m just jealous because my personal multi-million dollar contract with the US government doesn’t let me tote a select-fire M4.

   ColtCCO

2. Micheal Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 11:53 am

   I thought such shotguns were DD and not NFA regulated, begs the question even more, how does Blackwater get around it. Guess Mr. Christain, the owner of Blackwater spent his money will with donations to the Bush campain in 00 and 04. Can we say cronie.

3. Ry Jones Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 11:56 am

   They’re an SOT. Get off the “cronie” stuff. Anyone can pay the tax and become an SOT for Title 2 firearms.

4. ColtCCO Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 11:57 am

   DD shotguns are/were declared on an item-by-item basis – a semi or full auto shotgun is not automatically a DD. Destructive Devices are in fact NFA firearms, and would be purchased, for a govt. agency, with no more trouble machinegun, but in this case, this is NOT a DD, it’s just another machinegun.

   ColtCCO

5. ColtCCO Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pm

   Ry, very true – We’re an SOT as well. But, while it lets you own and build new NFA firearms, It doesn’t let you purchase new NFA weapons from someone else unless you have a police demo letter – or a government contract that exempts you. Our SOT holding company can’t go buy a new Select-Fire M4 from Colt, or a Dillon Aero Minigun, unless we have government permission first.

   I agree that the accusations of cronyism are unwarranted.

   ColtCCO

6. Kristopher Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 1:21 pm

   Even if it is a DD and an MG … you simply pay more federal tax.

   I own a DD … it’s not that big of a deal.

   Get an FFL, pay the class 3 SOT, and get a local PD to write you a demonstration letter, and you too can purchase any bang-toys your heart desires at real market prices, instead of insane “pre-May ’86 transferable” prices.

7. Kristopher Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm

   My DD.

8. Jim W Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pm

   It isn’t a DD because it hasn’t been declared one. Like the Jackhammer, it is a post 86 MG because it fires multiple rounds per trigger pull.

9. Zendo Deb Says:
   February 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm

   Actually they didn’t say Blackwater was buying. They said they (the manufacturer and “reporter”) went to Blackwater’s range.

10. Dustin Says:
    February 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    I wish I could buy one. It looks like it would be a real blast to shoot, both literally & figuratively.

11. LibertyPlease Says:
    February 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 am

    If I could just be part of the Better-Than-Mere-Civilians caste I wouldn’t gripe about the whole losing our liberties thing…..

12. Ry Jones Says:
    February 2nd, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    ColtCCO: I’m aware of the differences between transferable, pre-86, and post-sample title 2 firearms. I didn’t explain myself verbosely enough, though. You’re right, if it is post-sample, you need a letter.

13. ParatrooperJJ Says:
    February 4th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Actually weapons can be both DDs and MGs.

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