Romney on guns
Glenn and Helen have a podcast with him: he says he’ll veto any gun control bills that cross his desk as President, including a renewal of the “assault weapon” ban.
That is, as Glenn notes, more than Bush ever promised.
Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.
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February 3rd, 2008 at 10:44 am
i was supporting Fred!. 🙁
Given what choices I have left, I saw this:
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/01/your-handy-candidate-comparison-chart.html
My perspective is that he will say whatever he has to in order to get elected. As will the others. But at least this guy is saying some things I agree with…
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 am
He’s saying them now. What about two years from now when he needs to suck up to the Dem. vote in Congress? Will he still proclaim his newly acquired NRA membership then?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 am
Didn’t he just say he supported an assault weapons ban a few weeks ago? The problem with Romney is his position will be whatever adviser or interest group is talking to him at that point.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 am
Well, considering that he said the exact opposite in the past ( http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm ), I know exactly what he will do in the future, when the chips are on the table.
Do whatever gets him the most power, or, barring that, the most popularity. And considering how small of a population segment we People of the Gun are…
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 am
I’m not sure what the purpose of posting this was, as Romney has proven he will say anything, and his actions have been consistently pro-state/anti-rights concerning firearms.
Giving this authoritarian windbag any press for known lies is questionable….
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 am
the purpose is that it has to do with guns and politics. and this blog focuses on, err, guns and politics. i didn’t say i believed him.
February 3rd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Low mileage.
One owner.
Owned by a little old lady that only drove it to church on Sunday.
I listen to Romney and I hear used car salesman.
February 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I agree with what most of you are saying.
But my point is, the other folks aren’t even trying to patronize us – they are all openly saying f-you to peeps like us. At least this guy is offering a reach-around.
February 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
He is now the only candidate that is embracing gun rights. Some might say its an election day conversion. Fine with me. His views on gun rights are moving in our direction and that is good. He is certainly no worse than Hillary, Obama, or McCain. He is better than those three because he wants our vote.
I’m a Fred Head and I’m proudly voting for Romney.
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I’ll take these promises from romney over what the other candidates are offering.
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Romney is no more the say anything candidate than McCain, who has reversed his positions on taxes, immigration, and judges.
But the way I see it: Romney has a history of saying things that imply he’d violate rights, while McCain has a history of actually going after them (McCain-Feingold).
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I dont believe anything Romney says this week because next week he’ll have a different stance on the same issue. He’s more deserving of the nickname “flipper” than Hanoi Kerry.
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
http://www.pocopattino.com/shoephotos/Haveana-FlipFlop-Gold.jpg
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Maybe so, but at least the flip is toward the direction we’d want.
He’s convinced me to not write in Fred Dalton Thompson on my Texas Primary ballot… begrudgingly.
Rabbit.
February 3rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Romney’s talk on the economy really cheers me up. He gets it in a way that McCain definitely does not. That makes him a solid second choice to Ron Paul IMO.
February 3rd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
McCain’s record isn’t perfect. But it IS a record. All Romney has are words, words that often contradict his previous words.
February 3rd, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Hillary or Obama? I know both of the candidates on the R side are lying scumbags. Which D would screw the country up less in the upcoming 4 years? The main problem I see is that you’ll have a D deciding who gets on the Supreme Court. At least 2 replacements are coming up in the next 4 years. Of course the ones that are leaving are liberals anyway, so maybe that won’t be a net change.
February 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Cactus Jack Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I dont believe anything Romney says this week because next week hell have a different stance on the same issue. Hes more deserving of the nickname flipper than Hanoi Kerry.
Rabbit Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Maybe so, but at least the flip is toward the direction wed want.
Yeah, THIS week. The only thing Romney’s consistant on is his inconsistantcy.
February 3rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
So this guy was voted in by the exact same electorate that brought us John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Mass. in general. Somehow I’m supposed to believe that Romney is fundamentally different than any of them?
February 3rd, 2008 at 8:33 pm
How do most Mormons in Utah feel about gun control? I don’t know the answe to that question, but I am sure that Romney would not turn his back on those people. What is the general position of the Mormon church on gun control? That’s the question that you should ask.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Wow, at least now there’s some hope. Before this, it was looking pretty bleak for us gun-nuts. Romney will get my vote if he doesn’t flip back. Woe to him should he flip on this while in office. I will personally campaign for Obama in 2012 should that happen.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:58 am
There is no official church position, but people are allowed to carry inside the churches.
Most Mormons are conservative, so most are pro-2A. Also note, quite a few are ignorant, so when you say “assault weapon” they think of evil death rays, that when fired indiscriminately into the air always blow up the nearest PD or elementary school, whichever is closer.
I emailed Romney right before and after the FL debate on this subject. I got a reply but accidentally deleted it before I could read it as it was in my Spam folder. I wish I could take credit for his sudden change of heart.
I’d like to think he won’t turn his back on Utahns and Mormons, and now that he’s on record, it’ll be much harder for him to relent. But I still don’t know if I can trust him.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:05 am
Um, epistemological fallacy.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:16 am
Well, Romney is certainly demonstating a remarkable – flexibility. I think there isn’t much question that Romney is pandering to pro-gun Republicans, but at least he feels we are worth pandering to!
The sad truth is there are no longer any good choices left among the candidates so it comes down to a choice of the lesser of evils, and in my opinion Romney is the lesser evil. Romney may be a RINO who is doing a slick-willie to win, but that is still better than McCain who has been leading attacks on the 1st Amendment and the 2nd Amendment.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:31 am
McCain-Feingold stinks to high heaven, but McCain has not signed a never sunsetting assault weapon ban like Romney did in Mass. (and said he liked it!) . With Fred out this is a two issue election for me now. Gun rights and supreme court judges. Thanks to the MSM, we really have some great choices.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
NOT true. The Mormon church has registered with the state their intention that firearms are prohibited in ‘All “houses of worship” in Utah’.
Note also that the Mormon church is the only church in Utah to register a prohibition with the state.