Thirdpower correlates instances of mass shootings with their Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership state rankings and gun free zones. Note that the Brady Bunch did not rank Washington DC, the murder capital of the country.
Not, it’s not causation but it does indicate that gun controls don’t exactly stop these things.
I guess that’s why so many of us pick guns. It’s the cause you can pick that’s still consistent with your ideology!
He was for it before he was only slightly less for it (he has an election to win, ya know).
Anti-gun New Hampshire State Representative Nickolas Levasseur has a Myspace page in which he advocates killing Republicans.
By the way, the whole Why are anti-gun activists so violent? meme is almost a daily feature!
You know, the quote. Anyway, it seems that a popular website for buying Glock accessories is where both the VT killer and the NIU killer purchased some items. The press coverage is pretty abysmal. To wit:
The online gun dealer who sold a weapon to the Virginia Tech shooter said it was an unnerving coincidence that he also sold handgun accessories to the man who killed five students at Northern Illinois University.
Seems to me that a casual reader might conclude that one could visit a website and just order up a gun and have it shipped to their house. That, of course, is not the case. All firearms transfers must go through a dealer so as to conduct a background check.
Eric Thompson said his Web site, http://www.topglock.com, sold two empty 9 mm Glock magazines and a Glock holster to Steven Kazmierczak on Feb. 4, just 10 days before the 27-year-old opened fire in a classroom and killed five before committing suicide.
Another Web site run by Thompson’s company, http://www.thegunstore.com, also sold a Walther .22-caliber handgun to Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 people in April on the Virginia Tech campus before killing himself.
Despite the headline, topglock sold the shooter some magazines and not guns. Topglock did transfer a Walther P22 that was used by the VT killer. So, basically, the guy runs a popular website for Glock accessories and someone found it. Shocking! I can’t find thegunstore.com by going to the address or through Google. Anyone else?
Also, I like this bit:
The Glock Web site is well-known among gun users on the Internet, so it is not surprising that someone looking for accessories for a Glock would find it, Thompson said.
What is a gun user? I don’t particularly care for that language as it’s similar to, say, drug user.
David: Same Car Dealer Sold to 2 DUI Killers!!!
Ahab on internet gun sales.
“You know you may not believe it, but I’ve actually gone hunting,” she said to some surprise and laughter. “I know, you may not believe it, but it’s true. My father taught me to shoot a hundred years ago.”
I actually do believe her. The reason I do believe her is that she didn’t come out as a supposed lifelong hunter like Kerry and Romney. Neither of which were and neither of which could be believed. However, I don’t believe this:
The New York senator was trying to reassure voters in a Wisconsin sausage joint, the Brat Stop, this afternoon that “no lawful gunowner has anything to worry about” from her with gun control, and let on that she’d chambered more than a rounds in her time
Unless those lawful gun owners happen to own weapons that look like assault weapons, since she wants to ban them. Continuing the Hillary theme, it seems Harry Reid is holding up some gun votes because, well, Hillsy and the messiah err Obama would have to vote on it:
Republicans counter that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is trying to protect the two leading Democratic candidates for president by shielding them from a politically difficult vote on an issue that many rural voters consider crucial.
It’s the park carry bill. McCain co-sponsored it.
Update: Bruce circa 2005:
I’ll tell you this much. Hillary (or whoever the Dem nomination turns out to be) had better start getting in some serious practice at the skeet shooting range if she wants to be in true John Kerry-like form for the 2008 presidential. For my money, that would be the most entertaining part of the campaign – listening to Hillary explain how she’s on the side of the nation’s gun owners (and you thought Kerry looked ridiculous in those hunting photo-ops with his fresh-off-the-rack L.L. Bean barn jacket).
Kinda funny how nobody made an effort to pander to the anti-gun groups.
A while back, I noted that The City (My The City) may get an indoor firing range. Well, it looks like Gunny’s is set to open in mid-March. Their website says this month but I called them and they said it looks like March (speaking of their website, yes it is horrible and when I stop by, I might offer to help them with that).
They have a 25 yard range and it looks like, if you join now, they’ll knock $80 of the price of membership. Rumor I’ve heard is that if you join, they’ll sell you your first handgun at cost. So, don’t hold them to that. It’s just what some locals have told me. There’s also the added bonus that they’re seven miles from my house.
They found a 19 year-old college student dead. She had been raped. They suspect a serial rapist/killer. They give female college students rape whistles. Yes, whistles. They don’t get it.
Via Insty, comes a round up of stuff at TalkLeft on the messiah err Obama on guns. The spin is consistently some variation of he supports the right to arms but also supports reasonable restrictions. No, I’m as gun-nutty as gun nuts get and that’s my position. Only difference is that I’m believable. Obama’s position is not, given his support for the DC gun ban, the fact he’s never seen a gun control law he didn’t like, and that he was a board member for the Joyce Foundation (who funds all of the anti-gun astroturf).
But this bit is particularly amusing:
Obama is actually straddling the issue somewhat like the Bush Administration did when it filed a brief in the [D.C. gun] case last month. He does support individual rights, but says—and this is the qualifier–the government can impose reasonable restrictions on gun ownership. And he then suggests that pretty much any existing laws are reasonable.
Heh.
I’m not feeling the male rage!
I mentioned this lame bit earlier, now Ahab has a say:
Peace and social justice? Would that be the same “peace and social justice” that the NIU shooter was interested in?
Ouchie!
Our old pal Jayne Lyn Stahl (remember her?) is back! She doesn’t seem to have learned her lesson and is once again blaming the gun lobby.
It’s a recurring theme here at SayUncle that gun rights advocates are winning. The latest is that the press has given serious coverage of the debate over whether or not to allow the carrying of arms on college campuses. That would never, ever, ever have happened ten years ago. David noticed it too. As did Sebastian:
Concealed carry reform was one of the greatest strokes of strategic brilliance the gun rights movement has ever had, and I’m not sure we’d be in the position we’re in today without.
Despite the fact that a relatively small number of people bother to get licenses to carry a concealed firearm, the impact has been substantial in terms of how public debate on gun control is framed. It has allowed us to shift the debate on this issue exlusively away from sporting uses and toward self-defense
Indeed. Now, the issue becomes one that our opposition continues to lie. For instance, they refer to said movement as arming college kids or arming everyone. Both of these arguments are strawmen. No one is arming anyone. No one is arming college kids. Our argument is that someone who is otherwise lawfully allowed to carry a firearm at other places should also be allowed to carry on a college campus. Someone who is otherwise lawfully allowed to carry a firearm is 21 (i.e., not a college kid), law-abiding, and already armed. No one is arming them. The other side has to reframe our argument in an attempt to make it look silly. They have to cheat to win.
Jay has a novel solution to gun violence on college campuses.
ABC notes that democrat presidential candidates do not have a solution. And by solution, ABC means gun control.
One state lawmaker in Illinois is pushing for concealed carry laws. Illinois is one of two states with no concealed carry provisions.
Angry Parents Push For Gun Control
You wouldn’t know the facts from the article because it spends the first eight paragraphs giving details designed to tug at the heart strings. Then two people mention that they’re angry.
So, let’s push for gun control!
Let’s institute licensing and registration for gun owners! Oh, they already did that in Illinois.
Let’s close the gun show loophole! Oh, they already did that in Illinois.
Let’s mandate locks be sold with handguns! Oh, they already did that in Illinois.
Let’s pass laws to keep guns out of the hands of underaged! Oh, they already did that in Illinois.
Pass laws preventing those adjudicated as mentally defective from possessing arms! Oh, they already did that in Illinois.
Let’s ban the carrying of arms! Oh, they already did that in Illinois.
Let’s push for a ban on on weapons that look like assault weapons! Wait, the killer didn’t use one.
Ok, I’m stumped.
Jack Lail: Boss Hogg couldn’t survive bloggers buzz
A snippet:
A bit of background and I’ll be brief. In Knoxville, Tenn., politics is played the Good Ole’ Boy way. Think Boss Hogg from TV’s The Dukes of Hazzard and its fictional Hazzard County, Georgia.
County organization charts read like family trees. Paid county employees hold county elected offices. Meetings are mere formalities for decisions made in used car lots.
Controversies break out among fighting factions aligned with politicos who control dollars and patronage, but rarely ripple out as interests to the average citizen.
And the voters? Don’t raise taxes and keep the schools open and most couldn’t tell you who represents them and couldn’t care less.
Says it all, don’t it: I can never carry a gun. I am just too angry.
And an anti-gun US Representative’s wife threatens to shoot someone in a bar fight.
They don’t want you armed because they think you have as little control as they do.
Over at Science Daily, comes the PSH:
In “Guys and Guns Amok: Domestic Terrorism and School Shootings from the Oklahoma City Bombing to the Virginia Tech Massacre” (Paradigm, 2008), UCLA professor of education and cultural critic Douglas Kellner argues that school shootings and other acts of mass violence embody a crisis of out-of-control gun culture and male rage, heightened by a glorification of hypermasculinity and violence in the media.
Oh boy! We’re blaming the gun culture and the patriarchy! Note that, in a small defense of the piece, by gun culture he’s referencing the glorification of guns in our culture and not the gun culture as usually described. Still, it doesn’t sound very sciency. It doesn’t seem to explain why anti-gunners are so violent, though.
NK commenting at Xrlqy Wrlqy’s on the spin that somehow, despite supporting DC’s total ban on functional weapons, that Obama is somehow pro-gun:
Obama could cook and eat a puppy on national television and the media would report that he’s a fervent advocate of animal rights.
The NRA has several bills in the works in Tennessee to reform some right to carry issues. Detals below the fold (via NRA News Alerts):
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That’s what we are for advocating that having the law-abiding armed is better than the alternative. After all, it’s not like these mass shootings keep occurring in places where people are prohibited from carrying weapons. Oh, wait. And if you arm teachers, someone might get killed!
Ruger mini-14 in 6.8SPC. Guess that cartridge is here to stay.
Steyr Aug in 9mm that takes Glock mags. And an Aug in 6.8SPC!
In light of yesterday’s mass shooting in a state where citizens are prohibited from carrying firearms, near a city where handguns are banned, on a school campus where firearms are prohibited (unless you have a note), The Brady Bunch and friends released a presser. It has some policies to reduce the carnage:
o An effective ban on all semiautomatic assault weapons. In addition, the Bush Administration should act immediately to better enforce the existing federal ban on the importation of foreign-made assault weapons.
There is no such thing as a semiautomatic assault weapon. The shooter did not use a weapon that was covered by the expired assault weapons ban. And the better enforcement of the existing federal ban on the importation of foreign-made assault weapons is something I’ve never heard them bleat about before.
o A complete ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
The Illinois shooter reloaded his shotgun a few times.
o Ensure that all gun sales at gun shows are subject to a background check.
Sales at gun shows are subject to the same federal laws as sales not at gun shows.
o Establish a system whereby university officials are notified when a student purchases a gun from a gun dealer.
That’s a new one. And, man, is it a doozy. Next, they’ll want to publish lists of gun purchases in the paper.
By the way, The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership ranks Illinois 9 out of 50 states in terms of gun control. I don’t think they’ll be bringing that up, though.
He’s for gun rights when when running for national office. That statement goes against everything in his record.
He says: I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it’s subject to commonsense regulation
He has, of course, never seen a regulation he did not support. Per Obama, the total ban in DC is constitutional. And, I guess, reasonable.
And he was a board member of the anti-gun Joyce Foundation, the entity that pays for all the anti-gun astro-turf.
Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.
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