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March 24th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Err, the “American Dream” is working 65-75 hours per week over a period of years so that you could live what could at best be described as a lower-middle-class existence (and is probably more fairly described as an upper-lower-class existence) until you manage to shack up with some local broad? Color me less than impressed.
This guy hasn’t “gotten ahead.” He’s probably gotten “all the way” to the 35th or 40th percentile. And he had to work his ass off just to get there. Call that what you will, but that’s not what most people think of when they think of “the American Dream.”
Also, I expect the Lou Dobbs wing to send investigators to have this guy deported immediately.
March 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Yeah, because going from having less than zero to having a roof over your head, a stable relationship, earned income, and enough saved money to offset almost any calamity, and a future, is just a bunch of nothing, don’t ya know…
March 24th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Nobody said it’s “nothing,” just that it isn’t what most people would describe as “the American Dream.”
March 24th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Well what would you propose Tgirsch? If the American Dream = a “comfortable” lifestyle then how can it be attained? Should the government just give everyone what they “need” to be “comfortable” The very notion of a “dream” is that it may not come true. We have a right to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness, but as Ben Franklin said “you have to catch it (happiness) yourself”
It wouldn’t be a dream if everyone could attain it. For some to succeed others have to fail. That’s a reality. If everyone succeeded then how would we measure success and failure?
Remember, liberty involves risk, and one of those risks is failure.
March 24th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I worked a great many 91 hour weeks in my work life, where the Hell were you to argue I was being abused by chasing my dreamd? Oh, I got it. It was a small dream, but an entire solar system away from where I started. And it was exactly what I wanted. In the process I raised eight children, who all turned out well and are achieving their dreams more easily because they did not have to start as far down as I did.
No, I didn’t sire all those children, but I fathered them. So, don’t even take that next shot you were thinking.
And for Christ’s sake, grow up.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Hey tgirsch…he’s probably got a lot more than he had in Mexico. I personally think that I live well, but there will be people who look at lifestyle and think that I’m in the poor house..so be it. Great to hear about Rich’s new son-in-law.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:57 am
The American Dream for this guy was the American Dream for the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, The English, hell, just about everyone from the establishment of settlers on this continent. You think those people arrived with a house and a job and all sorts of mod cons?
March 25th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Working 65 hours a week beats the Hell of not working at all.
March 25th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
I guess I didn’t realize that the American Dream hasn’t changed at all since the standards of the 1890’s. Pardon my mistake.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
The dream might not have changed but America has… I lived in California in the 80s and when I go back it’s changed a great deal.
The obvious changes are development, expansion, more people, more traffic but the major difference I notice is that people just don’t seem as happy as they used to be.
Achieving success through hard work is one of the best endeavours a person can do; but best to remember that it shouldn’t be the only thing.