McCain at NRA Con
Received via email in answer to prior questions about whether you could carry while McCain was there:
This came down from the Secret Service–it was not our call (nor McCain’s).
NOTICE: By mandate of the U. S. Secret Service, no firearms will be allowed in Hall A of the Kentucky Exposition Center, the location of the Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum, on Friday, May 16. Please be prepared to go through security screening to enter the venue. We look forward to seeing you at this outstanding event!
If you can post at all, we’re trying to alert everyone so people aren’t caught off-guard.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
What a great Celebration of American Values. Where wss the American values part? Or is the 2nd amendment some foreign value that sneaked across the border when nobody was looking?
May 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Didn’t McCain sponsor a bill with Joe Lieberman last year which would require background checks for private transaction gun purchases?
May 13th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Chris,
Yes, McCain co-sponsored the so-called “gunshow loophole” with Lieberman to do that. That bill put the onus on gunshow promoters and organizers to the extent that it would likely shut them down. I read where Bill Goodman who sponosrs them here in Nashville admitted that.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Bull-crap. It is McCain’s call.
He is not the slave of the Secret Service. Neither is the NRA.
The NRA can trespass the SS if they cannot behave. McCain can decide if he can enter the hall without the SS or not.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Someone needs to learn to tell the SS no.
If McCain can’t do it, the NRA needs to disinvite him.
SS cocooning of candidates and Presidents is a major factor in their loss of connection to reality and the deterioration of administrations with time.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Georege H.
Well-said! These guys (and girl) run around with armed protection PAID BY US while they work to restrict and/or deny our RIGHT to the same.
If gun control laws (and decrees) are so good, let them go by the same ones they would impose on us. Tell the SS to leave their guns behind too!!
All these candidates for Prez need to remember that we are the employers and they contend to become our employees–to be submissive to the wording of the Constitution and Bill of Rights!
May 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Does anyone have a cite for the United States Code under which the Secret Service does this “cocooning”? I want to read the exact language in the code to see how it might be limited.
I smell a rat here, a single, unobserved, diseased rat which could kill off the gun rights in an entire city, county, wherever, just because some Federal official who rates Secret Service protection might plan an itinerary there.
Yep, this sounds like a law which could be badly abused, and needs to reach the light of day.
Some connected questions: Is it assumed that legal CCW will always be denied in the vicinity of a candidate? Is not having prior knowledge of such a limitation a defense for a legal CCW who might get busted for carrying at that point in time and place?
If Obama gets in as POTUS, he will look for immediate ways to Federally shut down legal CCW, along with other damage to cause gun owners. McLame might do it as well, so we need to stay ahead of them.
May 14th, 2008 at 3:41 am
A clipping from the Fort Worth Star Telegram after the Obama rally in February. Draw your own conclusions ——-
Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally
By JACK DOUGLAS Jr. Star-Telegram Staff Writer
Posted on Thu, Feb. 21, 2008
DALLAS — Security details at Barack Obama’s rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena.
Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally
The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security.
Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department’s homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order — apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service — was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena’s vacant seats before Obama came on.
May 14th, 2008 at 3:50 am
Well, if I had been planning to attend the NRA function I would cancel my plans and tell the NRA why. The NRA has to stop pandering to these … people and start representing the people it is paid to represent. People who want reasons why I won’t send the NRA money can start by looking at this event.
May 14th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Haahahah! All you idiots in the NRA are going to its convention where you can even carry guns!! What a crock! If you spineless bastards can’t even hold the line on principles when your own lobby group violates them you’d better not hold your breath for the ‘revolution.’
May 14th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
This doesn’t really matter.
May 14th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
This is the first convention that CCW or open carry is allowed in the convention hall. Now people are whining about one event that they are told by Secret Service not to carry? Seems very spoiled children here. The Secret Service is the one service the President can not say no to. They have a very difficult job protect their charges 24 hr daily yet stay in background.
Remember Cheney on 9-11 saying the Secret Service agents just grabbed him and barley allowed his feet to touch the ground. They have the final say on security arrangements. McCain did not want SS detail but it was strongly urged upon him.
It will take time and lots of baby steps to get our country back in the way of thinking that a man with a gun is not a reason to panic.
May 14th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
US Citizen over at Traction Control says that the carry ban was just extended to some conference there, so it IS, in fact, spreading.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Sounds like a perfect opportunity for an Empty Holster Protest.