I wonder who he could mean
Josh Sugarman (sic) obtained his FFL about 15 years ago. Sugarman’s (sic) group, the Violence Policy Center, is an anti-gun group that advocates for stricter gun regulations. Sugarman (sic) tells WTOP, he got the license as part of a research project, and despite numerous phone calls, he will not sell guns.
“The bloggers put my phone number out there, and people have been calling to ask how much I’ll charge to transfer guns,” Sugarman (sic) says.
I wonder who he could be talking about? And in case you were wondering:
There are only six Federal Firearms Licensees in the District. WTOP contacted all six, and found only one is considering facilitating the transfers of handguns once the law changes.
The FFLs are held by Arena Stage, The Shakespeare Theater Company, Josh Sugarman of the Violence Policy Center, The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, K S Supply and Cs Exchange Ltd.
Rusty wonders why Sugarmann renewed his permit this year if it was for a ‘research project’.
Update: Original post here. NK reminds us, as mentioned in the original post, I believe that a requirement of an FFL is that you do sell guns? FFLs, what say you? Yes, it is.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I believe that a requirement of an FFL is that you do sell guns? FFLs, what say you?
July 10th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I must be bad.
I posted Josh Sugarman FFL status and Address (VCP’s that is) on the DCist a while back.
I figured I would do my part to provide him some much needed income doing transfers.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
When I was looking at an FFL it was required that the holder have a place of business. According to the agent I talked with he had just busted a guy selling out of his car using an FFL. If the Violence Policy Center has a store front, they are legal. They would also need a state sales tax stamp, as well as a Federal EIN number to report income from sales of said firearms the FFL allows to sell.
Personally I would love to see the guy in jail, much like he would like to see us.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
As a further note, the CCR was created for the guy who wanted to collect firearms. They can only recieve firearms that are more than 50 years old. That is the main difference in my poor understanding.
July 10th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
What are Arena Stage and The Shakespeare Theater Company doing with FFLs?
July 10th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
… the Shakespeare Theater Company? okay, i can see why they’d be interested in flashbang-capable stage props, but surely even in D.C. you don’t need an FFL for those?
July 10th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Ha! Friend of mine works there at Shakespeare, I’ve left her a vmail asking her to call me and tell me if I can get her to start doing FFLs for me…I’ll collect a small surcharge for the service :).
July 10th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
I believe that in Theater the licensing required to handle stage-explosives and be a Union Stage Pyrotechnician must cover any and all handling of prop-firearms too.
As far as “projects” go, I think he just misspelled “projection” – but doesn’t even a simple spelling error get the BATFE in a big old SWATY lather?
July 10th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
“… contacted all six, and found only one is considering facilitating the transfers .”
Which one? I may have some business for them.
– USCitizen
July 10th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Interesting,
I know of some others . . . but they are all defense department contractor/arms dealer types.
July 10th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
heres the ATF regs
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#c
July 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
more from the same link
July 10th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
wondering how they would treat a law office?
July 10th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
OK, so who is going to file the complaint with the ATF?
July 11th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Chris, you did not highlight what could also be a problem:
DC’s zoning codes must allow for the selling of firearms at the location. If they are in a building not zoned for selling of firearms they could also be in violation (I have no idea of DC’s laws so they may or may not be in violation).
July 13th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
I wonder if his office is within 1000 feet of a school?
July 14th, 2008 at 9:21 am
(C10) May a person obtain a dealer’s license to engage in business only at gun shows?
No. A license may only be issued for a permanent premises at which the license applicant intends to do business. A person having such license may conduct business at gun shows located in the State in which the licensed premises is located and sell and deliver curio or relic firearms to other licensees at any location.
[18 U.S.C. 923(a) and (j)]
July 14th, 2008 at 10:02 am
There are currently nine types of FFL. A Type 01 is a dealer in firearms, a Type 02 is a pawnbroker, a Type 03 is a collector of Curios & Relics, a Type 06 is a manufacturer of ammunition, etc. As usual when the government is involved, the descriptions in the titles don’t tell the whole story. A “dealer in firearms” could be a wholesaler (a distributor), a retailer (like a gun shop or sporting goods store), or a gunsmith. The gunsmith need not be actively buying or selling guns; if he takes guns into his “possession” (that is, keeps them overnight for anything more than trivial work) he must log them in and back out as “transfers,” which are like sales but with no money involved. Even though he’s not “selling” the customer’s guns, he generally needs the 01 FFL.
It’s all a royal pain in the crank.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:44 am
It can be handy for a theatre to have an FFL because of the need to modify firearms in the prop shop, and to keep them afterwards. Sometimes they used sawed-off firearms as props, too, or as the workings of prop guns that must fire.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:10 am
I wonder why he is listed on gunbroker.com