Actually, according to Mythbusters, if he had ensured the rifle was completely submerged and completely filed with water, it would have fired just fine as well. Just takes little air to be in the action or the barrel for it to not work.
That’s truer for handguns and revolvers, but not so much for rifles or anything sufficiently high velocity. Air and water together at the same time, however, will screw you up and possibly get you killed.
Also don’t wear weird-ass rubber clothing and a Rocketeer helmet in your backyard ducky-pool – unless you’re talking German. WTF is a “competetitive model” -?
When I had my training from an NRA Instructor, 50 YEARS AGO, the rule was NEVER fire a weapon underwater, and if it was submerged, strip it and get the water out before firing.
I’m sure that somewhere, the military teaches a safe way to fire a just-submerged AR. If the weapon has the chamber loaded, that round has to be removed, because the vacuum lock of a closed tube (THE BARREL) almost guarantees that there will still be water in the barrel when firing. If the action is also full of water, firing the weapon will put a lot of pressure on that water as the bolt cycles, and pressurized water will find it’s way out of the action, explosively.
If I had to guess at a safe clearing, it would be rack, lock back, invert, shake and put back into action, preferably with a dry magazine. Even that might not get enough water out.
BTW, my Range Safety Officer course did NOT cover this subject.
November 18th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Well, duh. What’s that video trying to prove?
Don’t fire a rifle (AR, AK, Remington, Mauser, Mosin, whatever) with a barrel full of water. Especially don’t fire a gas-operated rifle…
November 18th, 2008 at 9:52 am
If that were a Glock, it would have shot fine…
(*ducks*)
November 18th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Actually, according to Mythbusters, if he had ensured the rifle was completely submerged and completely filed with water, it would have fired just fine as well. Just takes little air to be in the action or the barrel for it to not work.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
That’s truer for handguns and revolvers, but not so much for rifles or anything sufficiently high velocity. Air and water together at the same time, however, will screw you up and possibly get you killed.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
mythbusters shot a Garand that was submerged.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
And it didn’t work as well as the p239. They also shot a shotgun underwater, and the force cracked the entire thing.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Also don’t wear weird-ass rubber clothing and a Rocketeer helmet in your backyard ducky-pool – unless you’re talking German. WTF is a “competetitive model” -?
November 18th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
When did HK hire Boba Fett?
November 18th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Note to self – do not swim with new AR-15.
November 18th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
When I had my training from an NRA Instructor, 50 YEARS AGO, the rule was NEVER fire a weapon underwater, and if it was submerged, strip it and get the water out before firing.
I’m sure that somewhere, the military teaches a safe way to fire a just-submerged AR. If the weapon has the chamber loaded, that round has to be removed, because the vacuum lock of a closed tube (THE BARREL) almost guarantees that there will still be water in the barrel when firing. If the action is also full of water, firing the weapon will put a lot of pressure on that water as the bolt cycles, and pressurized water will find it’s way out of the action, explosively.
If I had to guess at a safe clearing, it would be rack, lock back, invert, shake and put back into action, preferably with a dry magazine. Even that might not get enough water out.
BTW, my Range Safety Officer course did NOT cover this subject.
November 19th, 2008 at 2:40 am
Wow.
Darth Vader’s suit wouldnt have saved him if it didnt just go “click” on the second time (If it had worked somehow, while destroyed)