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6 Responses to “Black on black defeasance”

1. rightwingprof Says:
   November 20th, 2008 at 11:33 am

   Keyes has always been a nutjob. This isn’t surprising.

2. Bobby Says:
   November 20th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

   Just one thing-

   “One word: standing. Suppose, hypothetically, that there really is a legitimate, non-frivolous debate as to whether or not Obama was a natural born citizen. How on earth is Alan Keyes injured by that?! He wasn’t a candidate in the race, nor is he a pledged elector for anybody in California, so even if there were a real case here, he would not be the proper party to bring it.”

   So if a law is broken (not saying Obama is breaking a law, but bear with me) and you are not hurt by such law being broken, it is “ok”?

   If someone breaks into your neighbors house, should you not care because you arent involved?

3. Xrlq Says:
   November 20th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

   My point on standing is complicated a bit by the fact that (according to some commenters) he technically was a candidate, albeit one in no danger of winning a single electoral vote whether Obama is a natural born citizen or not. Lack of standing doesn’t go to whether something is or isn’t OK, but to who has a valid stake in the dispute. If someone breaks into your neighbor’s house, by all means call 911 to alert the authorities and your neighbor’s cell phone to alert him. But you don’t have standing to sue the perp yourself. Civilly, it’s a matter between the perp and the victim. Criminally, it’s between the perp and the state.

4. Mikee Says:
   November 20th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

   President-elect Obama’s mother was apparently an American citizen in good standing at the time of his birth. Therefore Obama is a citizen of the USA. Doesn’t matter where she birthed him, conceived him, or carried him before or after birth. For reference to the validity of this, see John McCain, born in Panama to US parents. A suit against his candidacy, on similar grounds of non-native-citizenry, was already tossed by a court.

   Anyone who does not understand this deserves the ridicule they will get. Unless Keyes has some info that shows O’s mom renounced her citizenship before O’s birth, the suit does not rise to the level of being worth the ink it is printed with, let alone the paper it is printed on.

5. chris Says:
   November 20th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

   considering that if the allegations are true, every citizen of the US is a victim of fraud, we should all have standing.

6. straightarrow Says:
   November 20th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

   Yeah Mikey? Tell it to George Romney.

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