I’d love to know who they expect to pay ~$2,000 for that rifle when you can still get a decent regular AR for half that from a company that knows ARs and isn’t recalling stuff left and right.
But it’s a GAS PISTON which means it’s MORE AWESOME. Or something. I don’t know, I mean it’s cool and everything, but I’m so “AR’d” out right now that it just of registers as “oh look an AR”.
Although the whole “includes 3 30 round magpul mags” is actually pretty cool.
Fifty years ago, Ruger led the pack with the Blackhawk, the 22 Autopistol, the Number 1, the mini-14, and the 10/22. Now, with the exception of that plastic revolver, they’re just following the herd.
What Ruger gun does not go bang when you pull the trigger? Name a model, please.
My Mini-14 feeds, fires and ejects every single time, regardless of how dirty the gun is, which factory/brand-name magazine with which follower I use, the bullet weight or new/reloaded status of the ammo. My Bushmaster is not that reliable.
Don’t mistake Ruger’s caution about safety recalls for a legitimate reliability issue (like the cracks in Beretta Tomcat frames, or the problems with S&W’s old zinc-frame cheapo 9mm)
I love how all these guys are ragging on this rifle like its “just another AR”… It shows how little they now about the AR-15. This Rifle is amazing, Ruger has really done an awesome job. I’ve been waiting for Ruger to join the AR crown, now if they only start making a 1911…
Good for Ruger. Good for Troy Industries, MagPull and Hogue too.
“It’s a gas-operated rifle, and there the similarity ends…” The receiver is all Stoner. They just went with a piston instead of direct impingement. That’s a departure from Stoner, sure, but the basic platform is still his. Much better for using with a suppressor, and I for one am tired of fiddling with the carrier, trying to get the gunk out of the cavity behind the bolt.
What’s with all this “Ruger Recall” mania, anyway? Would you rather they cover up their faults? Look; Ruger makes more guns than anyone else, they’re a pioneer in manufacturing, and therefore you would expect to have more recalls from them than from a small company. They have millions and millions of guns out there, many of which have been abused with over-pressure reloads, ’cause people expect to be able to do that to a Ruger, and the vast majority of them are still functioning just fine. Be nice.
Don’t pile on until you can show some statistics indicating that they have recalled more new designs than someone else. If you want to make 1911s and Win ’94s for the rest of the century, I bet you could do it without recalls (maybe) but with new designs and new processes, shit happens. It’s called progress. Learn to love it.
The H&K 416: “Because you SUCK, and we hate you”.
The Ruger SR 556: “Because WE suck, and you hate us…”
Seriously though, this whole piston AR conversion mania is what happens when Engineers listen to marketing instead of Technicians and intelligent operators in the field. Piston driven ARs BREAK… quickly. They have all of the problems associated with the regular AR, namely the Johnson/Stoner bolt, AND the added faults of a piston which pushes a steel carrier DOWNWARD into an aluminum receiver. Also, there’s this little thing called Cam Angle, which is very important,alteration that has always been neglected in these conversions.
The problem with the AR180B is poor accuracy. The upper fits poorly on the lower, and wobbles quite a bit side to side and a little bit up & down. The only way my buddy got his to stay on the paper at 100yds was to use a heavy-duty cable tie around the receiver to hold it in place (tightened with pliers!)
I couldn’t find a way to jam an AccuWedge in there, and I am not aware of any company making a product to address this problem.
Also, the scope mount system sucks. The bracket welded to the top of the receiver has angled grooves to hold the scope mount. Except the scope mount didn’t fit tightly into the grooves. Getting it fixed was like pulling teeth with the Armalite repair department.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I’d love to know who they expect to pay ~$2,000 for that rifle when you can still get a decent regular AR for half that from a company that knows ARs and isn’t recalling stuff left and right.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
But it’s a GAS PISTON which means it’s MORE AWESOME. Or something. I don’t know, I mean it’s cool and everything, but I’m so “AR’d” out right now that it just of registers as “oh look an AR”.
Although the whole “includes 3 30 round magpul mags” is actually pretty cool.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Did you catch the copyright notice?
“Strum”
Recall notice for the website in 3, 2, 1..
May 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I’d take one but I wouldn’t go buy one.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I don’t own an AR, but have shot them and had one assigned as a partol rifle. They are OK.
I read a LOT about ARs, and it seems to me that to be an AR, you have to be Stoner, not Garand in the design.
This latest Ruger seems more Garand than Stoner, so is it REALLY an AR at all?
It’s a gas-operated rifle, and there the similarity ends, unless you want to count cosmetic features, and WE don’t count those, do we?
May 15th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Fifty years ago, Ruger led the pack with the Blackhawk, the 22 Autopistol, the Number 1, the mini-14, and the 10/22. Now, with the exception of that plastic revolver, they’re just following the herd.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I chuckled at this bit:
“The SR-556 offers Ruger’s legendary rugged reliability..”
May 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Adam,
What Ruger gun does not go bang when you pull the trigger? Name a model, please.
My Mini-14 feeds, fires and ejects every single time, regardless of how dirty the gun is, which factory/brand-name magazine with which follower I use, the bullet weight or new/reloaded status of the ammo. My Bushmaster is not that reliable.
Don’t mistake Ruger’s caution about safety recalls for a legitimate reliability issue (like the cracks in Beretta Tomcat frames, or the problems with S&W’s old zinc-frame cheapo 9mm)
May 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I love how all these guys are ragging on this rifle like its “just another AR”… It shows how little they now about the AR-15. This Rifle is amazing, Ruger has really done an awesome job. I’ve been waiting for Ruger to join the AR crown, now if they only start making a 1911…
May 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Good for Ruger. Good for Troy Industries, MagPull and Hogue too.
“It’s a gas-operated rifle, and there the similarity ends…” The receiver is all Stoner. They just went with a piston instead of direct impingement. That’s a departure from Stoner, sure, but the basic platform is still his. Much better for using with a suppressor, and I for one am tired of fiddling with the carrier, trying to get the gunk out of the cavity behind the bolt.
DO want.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
What’s with all this “Ruger Recall” mania, anyway? Would you rather they cover up their faults? Look; Ruger makes more guns than anyone else, they’re a pioneer in manufacturing, and therefore you would expect to have more recalls from them than from a small company. They have millions and millions of guns out there, many of which have been abused with over-pressure reloads, ’cause people expect to be able to do that to a Ruger, and the vast majority of them are still functioning just fine. Be nice.
Don’t pile on until you can show some statistics indicating that they have recalled more new designs than someone else. If you want to make 1911s and Win ’94s for the rest of the century, I bet you could do it without recalls (maybe) but with new designs and new processes, shit happens. It’s called progress. Learn to love it.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I tried to get some answers to questions and I’ve got a bunch of photos and video here..
http://nugun.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/ruger-sr-556-photos-and-video/
May 15th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
The H&K 416: “Because you SUCK, and we hate you”.
The Ruger SR 556: “Because WE suck, and you hate us…”
Seriously though, this whole piston AR conversion mania is what happens when Engineers listen to marketing instead of Technicians and intelligent operators in the field. Piston driven ARs BREAK… quickly. They have all of the problems associated with the regular AR, namely the Johnson/Stoner bolt, AND the added faults of a piston which pushes a steel carrier DOWNWARD into an aluminum receiver. Also, there’s this little thing called Cam Angle, which is very important,alteration that has always been neglected in these conversions.
But what do I know? I’m not even an Engineer!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Thought it would be something Earth shattering such as A steyr Aug copy or something.
To mirror some of the feelings here….. oh! an AR….. Yawn!
May 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
AR 180B, the ORIGINAL piston AR. ;^)
May 18th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Darrell,
The problem with the AR180B is poor accuracy. The upper fits poorly on the lower, and wobbles quite a bit side to side and a little bit up & down. The only way my buddy got his to stay on the paper at 100yds was to use a heavy-duty cable tie around the receiver to hold it in place (tightened with pliers!)
I couldn’t find a way to jam an AccuWedge in there, and I am not aware of any company making a product to address this problem.
Also, the scope mount system sucks. The bracket welded to the top of the receiver has angled grooves to hold the scope mount. Except the scope mount didn’t fit tightly into the grooves. Getting it fixed was like pulling teeth with the Armalite repair department.