The TN Senate voted to override the Governor’s Veto by 21-9. The governor can’t fulfill his promise to sign the bill so the legislature did it for him.
A civil rights victory.
Jackson read a list of lots of police chiefs who support the bill. Odd. The governor and the press kept telling us they oppose it? Jackson did a good job but yammered for too long.
Goes into effect July 14.
Update: ACK has more.
On a personal note, I’d like to say to Jimmy Naifeh: haha!
A look at who voted for and against. One republican voted no. I am happy to report that my rep, Joe McCord, unstupided himself and voted for the override after opposing the original bill.
Via MKS.
In anticipation of today’s override comes a reminder, don’t break the law. An email received from NRA today:
We’ve heard some chatter with TN bloggers that they want to go out to restaurants tonight and carry. We just want to make sure that no violates the law. There is language in the bill that states the law doesn’t go into effect until 40 days after it is overridden. Could you help us get the word out?
Yeah, the bill says June 1. But better to err on the side of not being arrested.
I’m told it starts in about 30 minutes. I thought it was to start 30 minutes ago. Keep your eyes peeled.
It is legally permissible for police to zap a suspect with a Taser to obtain a DNA sample, as long as it’s not done “maliciously, or to an excessive extent, or with resulting injury,” a county judge has ruled in the first case of its kind in New York State, and possibly the nation.
I have always been of the opinion that the only time for using a Taser is when deadly force is justified.
A bear knocked in a woman’s front door and chased her through her house. I didn’t realize bears were hanging around in West Knoxville.
MSNBC notes all the cool gizmos to make guns idiot-proof, none of which will make a difference and are inferior to the four rules of firearm safety.
Via Tam, who quips:
all the gadgets and gizmos in the world won’t keep a dumbass from shooting himself in the foot, as long as he’s the dumbass with the key to the internal lock and the fingerprint reader recognizes him as an authorized dumbass.
Seen at Breda’s:
Kikkerland donates 5% of proceeds of each bag to the Brady Campaign to end gun violence (www.bradycampaign.org)
Irony is that the bag they sell is shaped like a gun.
From ar15.com, an ad for a gun store in Pennsylvania:
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I saw that and realized that Guav, regular reader and commenter here, had created that image a bit back because the press kept reporting some shooter used an AK-15, which doesn’t exist (layers of editorial oversight indeed). So Guav photoshopped one up.
One wonders how that happens? The current guess is the shop owner paid a graphics guy for an ad. Only the shop owner misspelled AR-15 or has bad handwriting and his R looks like a K. So, the ad or graphics guy Googled up the wrong thing.
Still, funny. A couple of guys from ar15.com are going to go the shop and ask about it. Not just to be difficult but because the shop has a good deal on 5.56 ammo.
New Hampshire set to become sixth state to butt out of contracts between two people whose genitalia aren’t different.
Creekside Firing Range is a range in the Atlanta area. Some people built houses near the range and are surprised that ranges are noisy (note: if sound suppressors weren’t so heavily regulated, this wouldn’t be a problem). So, they try to shut it down. They lose. They do the logical thing and vandalize and destroy property.
That shotgun looks suspiciously unlike a shotgun. They usually calls those AK-47s so I guess it’s an improvement.
Of course none were fired. It was a toy gun. Princeton loses its collective shit because some juveniles found a toy gun.
Also, TN law says passengers can drink. Popular college football will do that to you.
specific gun control measures proposed in their aftermath were largely irrelevant and almost certainly could not have prevented the incidents or reduced their death tolls.
Well, yeah. Usually they take a bandaid approach. Gun control: what you do instead of something.
We expect it from anti-gun bloggers. And anti-gunners. So, no surprise when the anti-gun crybabies bar folks from their press conference, after all you can’t have facts getting in the way of opinion when your entire ideology is centered on misleading people. But when state senators from NY refuse to hear the other side, that’s a special kind of wrong.
The Daily Show weighs in on people buying guns since the Obama ascension:
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Proves the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership has no sense of humor. And they had the guy from Impact Guns on there. Funny and worth watching.
Update: Found embeddable video.
A pretty girl and a suppressed MK 12
I think the point is it makes the weapon look cool. I would have to look cool since it is a big unwieldy thing.
House votes to override the veto of the guns in restaurants that serve alcohol bill: 69-27
Update: WizardPC emails:
Naifeh is the first recognized. “there are so many organizations opposed to this legislation that we should listen to them.” Veto must be upheld…Hospitality Association wines about having to post signs because that will make them “have to choose between which groups they will alienate.” He went on to quote some appointed LEOs saying they would be skeered of going to restaurants with their grandchildren if this veto is overridden. “WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE THIS!!!” referring to the provision that HCPers can’t drink. Quotes a preacher saying “the relegious right” is against it. Hookay.
Casada is next. As it stands now, the bad guys are ignoring the law. TN is one of the unsafest in the nation. Nashville and Memphis are pretty violent, too. 36 other states allow this, and they’re safer.
Hardaway comes up. “I’m not going to editorialize.” Proceeds to read editorials. “This is about ‘How do we increase public safety'” and this isnt the way to do it. “This protects law abiding citizens from themselves.” Advocates a gun offender registry. Goes off on other tangents that have nothing to do with this veto override, like “social and public health issues” surrounding gun violence. Suggests addressing “underlying behavior.” Quotes TN Hospitality Association as suggesting their members contact the legislature (I wonder if the person who sent that email was the THA’s registered lobbyist…) Calls for mental health review of carry permit holders. Quotes Larry Godwin as saying “I think you’re going to see the results of this fairly quickly.” Says Godwin took 8 police commanders with him to the veto ceremony. “Nothing more volatile than having a weapon (where alcohol is served).” Common sense is dead. LEOs all say this is dangerous.
Speaker says we can talk for 10 hours on this, and no one is going to change their minds. “to rehash the same arguments over and over is ridiculous…If you’re here to showboat, you’re in the wrong place.” Met with applause 😀
Rep Todd brings up some LEOs to the podium, points out that Hardaway is full of crap. “This bill protects the citizens of this state.”
Blake points out we gained 3 votes. Heh.
Tomorrow, the senate.
Update: Campfield gloats.
Jeff Woods, in a surprise move, does not soil himself and brings the truth:
So with his veto, our powerfully influential governor managed to chase away three lawmakers who had been on his side.
I hear it’s starting.
WizardPC emails:
HB898 passed, 89-6, but not before Rep Campfield asked the sponsor if he had been contacted by Serpas or Bredesen. Sponsor responded in the negative, with a big ole smile.
After posing the question, Rep Mike Turner suggested that Campfield better not speed in this county after questioning Serpas’ motivations. Turner, the Democratic Caucus Chairman, likes to snark on the floor.
Rep Bass stated that this bill would bring off-duty officers in line with Carry Permit Holders in regard to restrictions on carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. It sounds like this was voted on under the assumption that the veto on 962 would be overridden.
update: More from Rep. Campfield:
Today HB898 by Watson allowed police officers and former police officers to carry in places that serve alcohol when off duty. Police officers don’t necessarily have a carry permit. They often times have POST certification. We will see if Bredesen really believes “Guns and alcohol don’t mix” if he vetos the bill to be consistant. I am ready for chief Cerpas to come out strongly against this legislation if he really believes what he says.
Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.
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