Makes me feel better about the modest size of my arsenal.
I know any future acquisitions are mainly luxury purchases at this point. I still want to get a hold of a SASS permissible levergun in .357 mag, and a coach (shot)gun. I already have a couple of SAA Colt replicas (Uberti & American Heritage Arms). Purely recreational acquisitions, though, I know.
How about “Relying on rimfire firearms after they stop being regularly stocked at your local Wal-Mart”? Why does everyone who thinks that food and water will become scarce items seem to think that .22LR ammo will NEVER disappear and that their 500 round brick will last them a lifetime? Did anybody try to buy .22 ammo last February?
If you can’t make it, you don’t have it. That applies to everything.
Matt: A brick lasts a long time if you’re not plinking with it. If you make every round count, that’s 500 potential meals.
Have two bricks on hand, you have almost enough bullets to feed you for an entire year, assuming you kill three small game animals a day with three shots. Only have meat for dinners, and you’re looking at almost two years of meals from a single brick.
Stockpile five or six bricks, and you have enough for a very long time; long enough to start working out alternatives.
That is, assuming of course, that game hasn’t been devastated by whatever caused the societal collapse or from over hunting. Which is something that should be planned for as well.
A good book on Chemistry is a must for anyone’s survival and general knowledge library. If you know how to make Fulminates, which simply put, is a Metal (not a Metaloid) dissolved in a strong acid, you can easily mix this compound with an adhesive and apply a small quantity to a used primer.
Lead Syphnate is what is currently used in non-corrosive primers, and I highly recommend you make that instead, but it does require a bit more skill. You can find directions on how to make it on the internet and in certain chemistry books.
Making primers is impractical and difficult, but not impossible. YOU WILL NEED to make priming compound in order to reload centerfire or rimfire ammo, but reloading rimfires is IMMEASURABLY more difficult. I know, because I’ve done it. Ever fire a .32 Rimfire? I have, but I had to make each round, and it was not easy, I assure you.
Also, just try to find a bullet mold for a heel type bullet like a .22 Rimfire.
Primers are also much cheaper than .22LR ammo, and while stockpiling .22LR is cheap and easily done with bulk .22 going for around $25/500-550 in these parts, Small Pistol Primers cost around $26/1000, and they take up less space.
Proper storage is advisable, but not essential. I recently fired 100 CCI primers that a friend of mine had in a outdoor shed for “over ten years”. The box was corroded, and the brass that was stored with it was too corroded for use. I decided to see if the primers would still work and measure the failure rate of primers exposed to FL weather for more than a decade. 100 shots, zero failures. That’s pretty damn reliable.
I also happen to be a machinist who works for a gun company, so unlike many of you, I can literally build an entire firearm from scratch, so don’t even try to throw that one in my face.
Finally, if hunting and foraging is part of your emergency food plans when society collapses, recognize that that’s the same idea 300 million other people have, and there won’t be two Rats for you to put on a spit after a few weeks.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Not explicitly. However, failing at the bottom few would be epic (ie death).
August 13th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Good stuff, thanks for posting the link.
Makes me feel better about the modest size of my arsenal.
I know any future acquisitions are mainly luxury purchases at this point. I still want to get a hold of a SASS permissible levergun in .357 mag, and a coach (shot)gun. I already have a couple of SAA Colt replicas (Uberti & American Heritage Arms). Purely recreational acquisitions, though, I know.
August 13th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
How about “Relying on rimfire firearms after they stop being regularly stocked at your local Wal-Mart”? Why does everyone who thinks that food and water will become scarce items seem to think that .22LR ammo will NEVER disappear and that their 500 round brick will last them a lifetime? Did anybody try to buy .22 ammo last February?
If you can’t make it, you don’t have it. That applies to everything.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Matt: A brick lasts a long time if you’re not plinking with it. If you make every round count, that’s 500 potential meals.
Have two bricks on hand, you have almost enough bullets to feed you for an entire year, assuming you kill three small game animals a day with three shots. Only have meat for dinners, and you’re looking at almost two years of meals from a single brick.
Stockpile five or six bricks, and you have enough for a very long time; long enough to start working out alternatives.
That is, assuming of course, that game hasn’t been devastated by whatever caused the societal collapse or from over hunting. Which is something that should be planned for as well.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:55 am
@ Matt
“If you can’t make it, you don’t have it. That applies to everything.”
So please inform us how you make primers.
An airgun would be nice. Of course once the lead runs out you’re going to be doing some mining and casting, but never mind those kinds of things.
August 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I’m glad you asked, Tom.
A good book on Chemistry is a must for anyone’s survival and general knowledge library. If you know how to make Fulminates, which simply put, is a Metal (not a Metaloid) dissolved in a strong acid, you can easily mix this compound with an adhesive and apply a small quantity to a used primer.
Lead Syphnate is what is currently used in non-corrosive primers, and I highly recommend you make that instead, but it does require a bit more skill. You can find directions on how to make it on the internet and in certain chemistry books.
Making primers is impractical and difficult, but not impossible. YOU WILL NEED to make priming compound in order to reload centerfire or rimfire ammo, but reloading rimfires is IMMEASURABLY more difficult. I know, because I’ve done it. Ever fire a .32 Rimfire? I have, but I had to make each round, and it was not easy, I assure you.
Also, just try to find a bullet mold for a heel type bullet like a .22 Rimfire.
Primers are also much cheaper than .22LR ammo, and while stockpiling .22LR is cheap and easily done with bulk .22 going for around $25/500-550 in these parts, Small Pistol Primers cost around $26/1000, and they take up less space.
Proper storage is advisable, but not essential. I recently fired 100 CCI primers that a friend of mine had in a outdoor shed for “over ten years”. The box was corroded, and the brass that was stored with it was too corroded for use. I decided to see if the primers would still work and measure the failure rate of primers exposed to FL weather for more than a decade. 100 shots, zero failures. That’s pretty damn reliable.
I also happen to be a machinist who works for a gun company, so unlike many of you, I can literally build an entire firearm from scratch, so don’t even try to throw that one in my face.
Finally, if hunting and foraging is part of your emergency food plans when society collapses, recognize that that’s the same idea 300 million other people have, and there won’t be two Rats for you to put on a spit after a few weeks.