Well, it’s a step up from cattle trailers. And it saves them bothering with any pesky posse comitatus issues around borrowing hardware from the army or guard; no more swearing the holdouts just happen to have a drug lab in addition to your original concern.
I’m starting to think today’s federal police forces more closely resemble the founders’ ideas of a select militia or standing army than they do a police force along the lines of Robert Peel’s rules of policing.
Here’s a laugh from section I.a: “Disseminate and leverage our technical expertise in explosives, IEDs, and post-blast investigations by providing advanced training for Federal, State, local, international and U.S. military personnel;”
I doubt that the ATF will be any different than the idiot DEA Agent who brought his loaded sidearm into a school classroom (see gun free zone) and proceeded to shoot himself in the leg accidentally. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ain2by4Fums – Just before he caps himself, he claims to be the only one in the room that is expert enough to handle the weapon.
“I’m from the Government, I’m here to help” … yikes.
According to the late Senator so effusively praised in the news recently, a couple of rounds of 30-30 would take care of those ATF armored vehicles.
Senator Kennedy: “Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers’ armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.”
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:19 am
You do realize that $600K for armored vehicles means they want to buy one or two of them right?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
yes. but i find it odd that an agency that is, essentially, a tax collector needs them.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
$218,000 per employee ?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Well, it’s a step up from cattle trailers. And it saves them bothering with any pesky posse comitatus issues around borrowing hardware from the army or guard; no more swearing the holdouts just happen to have a drug lab in addition to your original concern.
I’m starting to think today’s federal police forces more closely resemble the founders’ ideas of a select militia or standing army than they do a police force along the lines of Robert Peel’s rules of policing.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Here’s a laugh from section I.a: “Disseminate and leverage our technical expertise in explosives, IEDs, and post-blast investigations by providing advanced training for Federal, State, local, international and U.S. military personnel;”
I doubt that the ATF will be any different than the idiot DEA Agent who brought his loaded sidearm into a school classroom (see gun free zone) and proceeded to shoot himself in the leg accidentally. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ain2by4Fums – Just before he caps himself, he claims to be the only one in the room that is expert enough to handle the weapon.
“I’m from the Government, I’m here to help” … yikes.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 am
they want the damn things so they can kill more of us with less risk to themselves. If you think anything else, you are hopelessly naive.
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
According to the late Senator so effusively praised in the news recently, a couple of rounds of 30-30 would take care of those ATF armored vehicles.
Senator Kennedy: “Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers’ armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.”
September 4th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
it all depends on the level of protection. check out http://www.inkasarmored.com