Texas is kinda weird in that regard. You can carry in restaurants which serve alcohol, but not in establishments where 50% or more of sales are derived from the sale of alcohol. (So bars are completely out. But of course, a huge number of counties and municipalities are dry in Texas, so the issue isn’t that big a deal.)
Also weird: the definition of “drunk” for CHL holders is anything higher than 0.0 on the breathalyzer.
The numbers are a bit funky, in that two of the eight (IL and WI) prohibit concealed carry outright, while several of the non-eight are may-issue-but-won’t states like Cali (most counties, anyway). Still, nice to see things moving in the right direction, and may Carolina soon follow suit.
Michigan is almost exactly like Texas in “where you can conceal-carry”…except I don’t think there’s a specific percentage of sales mentioned in the law.
However, most MI CCW holders say that a restaurant that also sells alcohol appears to be in a different category from a bar that will also give you pizza if you ask for it. But it can sometimes be hard to tell.
karrde, same situation here in Nebraska. I’ve asked sports bar owners twice if they make more money from food or from alcohol sales. Both times they’ve said, “NO, you can’t carry in here.” One even said he wished we could.
September 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Texas is kinda weird in that regard. You can carry in restaurants which serve alcohol, but not in establishments where 50% or more of sales are derived from the sale of alcohol. (So bars are completely out. But of course, a huge number of counties and municipalities are dry in Texas, so the issue isn’t that big a deal.)
Also weird: the definition of “drunk” for CHL holders is anything higher than 0.0 on the breathalyzer.
September 30th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Good timing. I just received my permit in the mail…
September 30th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Same with Washington, Bars, Pubs, etc are out. Any place off limits to folks under 21 years of age is out, which is dumb.
October 1st, 2009 at 12:49 am
I wish my state (VA) would get its head out of its ass.
October 1st, 2009 at 1:01 am
The numbers are a bit funky, in that two of the eight (IL and WI) prohibit concealed carry outright, while several of the non-eight are may-issue-but-won’t states like Cali (most counties, anyway). Still, nice to see things moving in the right direction, and may Carolina soon follow suit.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:18 am
Michigan is almost exactly like Texas in “where you can conceal-carry”…except I don’t think there’s a specific percentage of sales mentioned in the law.
However, most MI CCW holders say that a restaurant that also sells alcohol appears to be in a different category from a bar that will also give you pizza if you ask for it. But it can sometimes be hard to tell.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:10 am
karrde, same situation here in Nebraska. I’ve asked sports bar owners twice if they make more money from food or from alcohol sales. Both times they’ve said, “NO, you can’t carry in here.” One even said he wished we could.
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