We also learned that apparently 6 percent of the people in NY-23 just automatically pull the lever for the R without even bothering to learn anything about the candidates.
SD, the RNC depends on that, as does the DNC (many would say they depend on an even higher percentage than that). NY23 is a hint that the politics of the next year is going to be interesting, at least. Either party will get run over if they expect to play by the old rule book…
…then again, that 6% might just be the seeds of the new improved bigtent moderate liberal GOP? I can hear them today, sitting in front of the CNN on tv, drinking their coffee and reading the newspaper, “well, at least WE stuck by our principles. Now we just need to build on that. We’ll have to dump Newt though; he’s lost his mojo.”
If Hoffman had run and won a traditional primary he probably would’ve won because there wouldn’t have been a bunch of rightwing loons like Ol’ Timey Fred Thompson, douchebag John Rich, and Sarah America coming in trying to make this election about themselves.
We also learned that apparently 6 percent of the people in NY-23 just automatically pull the lever for the R without even bothering to learn anything about the candidates.
Or they were early voters prior to Dede dropping out.
I think it was the Biden visit that convinced people to vote for Owens.
True or not, proves once and for all that voters in New Jersey and Virginia can vote past party affiliation, whereas New York is still fighting Minnesota for whom has the dumber voters.
True or not, proves once and for all that voters in New Jersey and Virginia can vote past party affiliation, whereas New York is still fighting Minnesota for whom has the dumber voters.
Or maybe voters in that district saw past Owens’ Democratic label and voted for a moderate veteran over some ideological crank being supported by a bunch of out of state rightwing carpetbaggers?
“Or maybe voters in that district saw past Owens’ Democratic label and voted for a moderate veteran over some ideological crank being supported by a bunch of out of state rightwing carpetbaggers?”
– Clearly, you do not know NY state politics then. Considering that there were no moderates in that NY state race.
Clearly, he doesn’t know politics generally, either. It’s not like there’s a huge precedent for voters flocking to moderates over ideological cranks. Just ask President McCain.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Wow, another phantom come from behind win for the D’s, but this time in NY. I dont belive there was a way for him to win here honestly.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:32 am
We also learned that apparently 6 percent of the people in NY-23 just automatically pull the lever for the R without even bothering to learn anything about the candidates.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Well, and the California 10th district.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:22 am
SD, the RNC depends on that, as does the DNC (many would say they depend on an even higher percentage than that). NY23 is a hint that the politics of the next year is going to be interesting, at least. Either party will get run over if they expect to play by the old rule book…
…then again, that 6% might just be the seeds of the new improved bigtent moderate liberal GOP? I can hear them today, sitting in front of the CNN on tv, drinking their coffee and reading the newspaper, “well, at least WE stuck by our principles. Now we just need to build on that. We’ll have to dump Newt though; he’s lost his mojo.”
November 4th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Do you guys think a proper primary would have helped the situation?
November 4th, 2009 at 11:42 am
If Hoffman had run and won a traditional primary he probably would’ve won because there wouldn’t have been a bunch of rightwing loons like Ol’ Timey Fred Thompson, douchebag John Rich, and Sarah America coming in trying to make this election about themselves.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
We also learned that apparently 6 percent of the people in NY-23 just automatically pull the lever for the R without even bothering to learn anything about the candidates.
Or they were early voters prior to Dede dropping out.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I think it was the Biden visit that convinced people to vote for Owens.
True or not, proves once and for all that voters in New Jersey and Virginia can vote past party affiliation, whereas New York is still fighting Minnesota for whom has the dumber voters.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
True or not, proves once and for all that voters in New Jersey and Virginia can vote past party affiliation, whereas New York is still fighting Minnesota for whom has the dumber voters.
Or maybe voters in that district saw past Owens’ Democratic label and voted for a moderate veteran over some ideological crank being supported by a bunch of out of state rightwing carpetbaggers?
November 4th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I guess this means that wingnut teabagger candidates are not really attractive to voters.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“Or maybe voters in that district saw past Owens’ Democratic label and voted for a moderate veteran over some ideological crank being supported by a bunch of out of state rightwing carpetbaggers?”
– Clearly, you do not know NY state politics then. Considering that there were no moderates in that NY state race.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Clearly, he doesn’t know politics generally, either. It’s not like there’s a huge precedent for voters flocking to moderates over ideological cranks. Just ask President McCain.