I think if you’re leaving a bar and get separated from your drunk girlfriend because she continues arguing with two other drunks after you break it off with them, and you have to go back and get her up off the ground where she either fell or was dropped, you have already missed several important stages of situational awareness and corrective actions to avoid problems.
Having said that, I thank God daily that I live in Texas. I never knew Kansas was such a silly place.
I can’t see someone being charged for it, but this is my understanding of the law in Oklahoma too. Or as the attorney who taught the legal portion of my CWL class said, “If your gun leaves the holster, someone has to die.”
It does seem odd that if he had actually fired the gun, but not hit anyone, he would have been able to argue third party defense.
Oh- anyone who says that drawing a weapon means someone has to die is an idiot. Picture this: A man is charging me with a knife, I draw my weapon, and he immediately drops his and raises his hands. Are you saying that because I drew my weapon, I must now kill the non-threat? Sorry buddy, I already drew my weapon, so you have to die.
February 17th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
I think if you’re leaving a bar and get separated from your drunk girlfriend because she continues arguing with two other drunks after you break it off with them, and you have to go back and get her up off the ground where she either fell or was dropped, you have already missed several important stages of situational awareness and corrective actions to avoid problems.
Having said that, I thank God daily that I live in Texas. I never knew Kansas was such a silly place.
February 17th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Wow self defense is a lot of work in kansas.
February 17th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
I can’t see someone being charged for it, but this is my understanding of the law in Oklahoma too. Or as the attorney who taught the legal portion of my CWL class said, “If your gun leaves the holster, someone has to die.”
It does seem odd that if he had actually fired the gun, but not hit anyone, he would have been able to argue third party defense.
February 17th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
That is why I am so glad that the display of a weapon in self defense in the state of Florida is non-deadly force.
February 17th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Oh- anyone who says that drawing a weapon means someone has to die is an idiot. Picture this: A man is charging me with a knife, I draw my weapon, and he immediately drops his and raises his hands. Are you saying that because I drew my weapon, I must now kill the non-threat? Sorry buddy, I already drew my weapon, so you have to die.
I don’t think so.
February 17th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
this is why lawyers shouldn’t write laws.
February 18th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Sorry Divemedic, but that is exactly what Kansas said.