“She must not have gone to elementary school where most of us learn the facts of life like “Finders keepers, loser weepers”.”
My elementary school taught me to not take things that didn’t belong to me and to return missing valuables to the Lost and Found. Maybe they do things differently now.
“Why do people take their guns out of holsters in the bathroom?”
+1
I have a belly-band holster that I occasionally wear when my clothes just can’t accept a more reasonable holster option. Better to go armed than not IMHO. But the band needs to be futzed with when I sit on the bowl (still don’t need to touch the gun) and that’s enough to keep the belly band in my holster box most days.
If you can’t use the shitter without removing your gun you should get a different holster.
No, assuming what she claims it true, it was stolen. Just because someone left something behind, doesn’t mean it’s yours. If you find it, and keep it without trying to find the owner, then you stole it.
I think the guy who sold the iPhone prototype to Gizmodo is going to find this out pretty soon, too.
My elementary school taught me to not take things that didn’t belong to me and to return missing valuables to the Lost and Found.
Bingo. Heck, my elementary school didn’t need to teach me that, my parents already had.
I have to take my .45 out of my holster when I drop a deuce, but I put it in the cradle made by my dropped trousers and my underoos (either scooby or superman, depending on my mood). That way, it isn’t hanging out of your holster on the urine soaked, un-mopped restroom floor. I used to use a shoulder holster (now IWB) for comfort and to avoid this problem, but it had a tendency to swing around and whack things when I was working (we don’t all work in office buildings). One of the benefits of a pocket gun is supposed to be that you don’t have to take it out of your pocket when you sit in your vehicle for a long time or when you have to use the Crapper.
I have to take my .45 out of my holster when I drop a deuce, but I put it in the cradle made by my dropped trousers and my underoos
Same here, though I remove the entire holster (I use holsters with clips instead of loops so I can keep it holstered but still take it off easily if necessary – this greatly reduces the likelihood of an ND if I have to remove my gun). The underwear goes on top of the gun to hide it from any prying eyes.
If you can’t use the shitter without removing your gun you should get a different holster.
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with that. I’m not going to base my decision on which holster to buy on a situation that doesn’t even occur every day and is a mere matter of convenience. I’m going to base it on more important things, like comfort, concealability, and accessibility. Whether or not I can pull my pants up while it’s still attached is going to be an item very low on the decision tree.
One chooses a holster for the stability of the platform for carrying, retaining the weapon and assisting in manipulation of the weapon (one handed reloads, etc.).
You drop your pants, the pistol(s) stay right there, do not jack with them (which leads to lost guns and NDs), when you have finished your business you pull up your pants (and zip up).
I really think this should be covered in CCW classes in those states that require them. I am mystified that people have no clue how to handle firearms in day to day living. Heck, even at a large gun skul, some numbnuts shot the stool while we were in class because he had to dick with his 1911 instead of just leaving the gun alone.
Like your Mom used to tell ya . . . just leave it alone and stop playing with it. 🙂
Tam, I was talking about playground justice. Teachers taught us much the same as you learned, of course it was with thees and thous way back when I went.
This has never been a problem for me, whether with an IWB or using a “Smart Carry”. I never take the piece out of the holster while on the can. I do sometimes cover the butt of the pistol with my boxers, just to deter curious eyes.
While standing at the urinal, i’ve had to learn the trick of keeping my belt on and just unzipping and using the fly slit; when peeing unarmed, before I normally unbelted and pulled down everything a little ways–not something I can pull off with nowadays wearing an IWB holstered pistol.
We are working to overturn the state university’s policy banning lawful carry on campus (basically the same situation as UColorado, we should win in court)but this will provide one more anecdote of why what is legal and safe off campus suddenly becomes a massive threat on campus.
If you must take the gun out of its holster to drop trou at least put it in your pocket, purse, coat or bag or something else for which you have already developed the muscle memory of picking up and taking with you when you leave the bathroom.
Most folks don’t have the habit engrained to pick up a gun from a paper dispenser or tank lid, they should instead utilize something else they already are used to not leaving behind.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I would choose the responsible course of action, which would be not to return it to some yo-yo who leaves it lying around in a public restroom. No telling how many lives that would save. I would not return it to the previous owner. I know that for a fact. I once refused to give a cop back his gun. Of course, I took it from him. He was another of those careless people. I did give it to another cop. However, if the second cop had not been available, I would just have kept it. In the interest of public safety, you understand.
“You drop your pants, the pistol(s) stay right there, do not jack with them (which leads to lost guns and NDs), when you have finished your business you pull up your pants (and zip up).”
You’re saying that when you pop a squat, your pants don’t come down, or that your belt doesn’t need to be undone? I’m wondering why we don’t have an anti-gravity device in our lavatory as is apparently common place in your area.
I touch my CCW gun everyday, and I don’t have NDs because I keep my “booger hook off the bang switch”. Seems pretty simple to me. Also, I handle dozens of guns every single day in my profession, and I’ve never had an ND with any of those either. So, to me, “don’t touch the gun” seems like good advice for children on the playground, not adults who will have to handle them on a regular basis as part of choosing to carry.
May 4th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Is she a state trooper???
May 4th, 2010 at 10:53 am
She must not have gone to elementary school where most of us learn the facts of life like “Finders keepers, loser weepers”.
May 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Why do people take their guns out of holsters in the bathroom?
Leave it in the holster, do your business and then pull your pants back up.
Stop jacking with guns, people!
May 4th, 2010 at 11:13 am
“She must not have gone to elementary school where most of us learn the facts of life like “Finders keepers, loser weepers”.”
My elementary school taught me to not take things that didn’t belong to me and to return missing valuables to the Lost and Found. Maybe they do things differently now.
May 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
“Why do people take their guns out of holsters in the bathroom?”
+1
I have a belly-band holster that I occasionally wear when my clothes just can’t accept a more reasonable holster option. Better to go armed than not IMHO. But the band needs to be futzed with when I sit on the bowl (still don’t need to touch the gun) and that’s enough to keep the belly band in my holster box most days.
If you can’t use the shitter without removing your gun you should get a different holster.
May 4th, 2010 at 11:36 am
No, assuming what she claims it true, it was stolen. Just because someone left something behind, doesn’t mean it’s yours. If you find it, and keep it without trying to find the owner, then you stole it.
I think the guy who sold the iPhone prototype to Gizmodo is going to find this out pretty soon, too.
Bingo. Heck, my elementary school didn’t need to teach me that, my parents already had.
May 4th, 2010 at 11:46 am
I have to take my .45 out of my holster when I drop a deuce, but I put it in the cradle made by my dropped trousers and my underoos (either scooby or superman, depending on my mood). That way, it isn’t hanging out of your holster on the urine soaked, un-mopped restroom floor. I used to use a shoulder holster (now IWB) for comfort and to avoid this problem, but it had a tendency to swing around and whack things when I was working (we don’t all work in office buildings). One of the benefits of a pocket gun is supposed to be that you don’t have to take it out of your pocket when you sit in your vehicle for a long time or when you have to use the Crapper.
May 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I always look in the restrooms ’cause I really want a throw down gun. 🙂
May 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Same here, though I remove the entire holster (I use holsters with clips instead of loops so I can keep it holstered but still take it off easily if necessary – this greatly reduces the likelihood of an ND if I have to remove my gun). The underwear goes on top of the gun to hide it from any prying eyes.
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with that. I’m not going to base my decision on which holster to buy on a situation that doesn’t even occur every day and is a mere matter of convenience. I’m going to base it on more important things, like comfort, concealability, and accessibility. Whether or not I can pull my pants up while it’s still attached is going to be an item very low on the decision tree.
May 4th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
One chooses a holster for the stability of the platform for carrying, retaining the weapon and assisting in manipulation of the weapon (one handed reloads, etc.).
You drop your pants, the pistol(s) stay right there, do not jack with them (which leads to lost guns and NDs), when you have finished your business you pull up your pants (and zip up).
I really think this should be covered in CCW classes in those states that require them. I am mystified that people have no clue how to handle firearms in day to day living. Heck, even at a large gun skul, some numbnuts shot the stool while we were in class because he had to dick with his 1911 instead of just leaving the gun alone.
Like your Mom used to tell ya . . . just leave it alone and stop playing with it. 🙂
May 4th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Kathy Jackson over at Cornered Cat has an article on this exact topic. It is required reading in my CCW class. http://www.corneredcat.com/Fun/embarrass.aspx
May 4th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Tam, I was talking about playground justice. Teachers taught us much the same as you learned, of course it was with thees and thous way back when I went.
May 4th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
This has never been a problem for me, whether with an IWB or using a “Smart Carry”. I never take the piece out of the holster while on the can. I do sometimes cover the butt of the pistol with my boxers, just to deter curious eyes.
While standing at the urinal, i’ve had to learn the trick of keeping my belt on and just unzipping and using the fly slit; when peeing unarmed, before I normally unbelted and pulled down everything a little ways–not something I can pull off with nowadays wearing an IWB holstered pistol.
May 4th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
I dunno. I thought I had a good idea on what to do in the bathroom…
May 4th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
This comes at a great time. =/
We are working to overturn the state university’s policy banning lawful carry on campus (basically the same situation as UColorado, we should win in court)but this will provide one more anecdote of why what is legal and safe off campus suddenly becomes a massive threat on campus.
If you must take the gun out of its holster to drop trou at least put it in your pocket, purse, coat or bag or something else for which you have already developed the muscle memory of picking up and taking with you when you leave the bathroom.
Most folks don’t have the habit engrained to pick up a gun from a paper dispenser or tank lid, they should instead utilize something else they already are used to not leaving behind.
May 4th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I would choose the responsible course of action, which would be not to return it to some yo-yo who leaves it lying around in a public restroom. No telling how many lives that would save. I would not return it to the previous owner. I know that for a fact. I once refused to give a cop back his gun. Of course, I took it from him. He was another of those careless people. I did give it to another cop. However, if the second cop had not been available, I would just have kept it. In the interest of public safety, you understand.
May 5th, 2010 at 8:27 am
“You drop your pants, the pistol(s) stay right there, do not jack with them (which leads to lost guns and NDs), when you have finished your business you pull up your pants (and zip up).”
You’re saying that when you pop a squat, your pants don’t come down, or that your belt doesn’t need to be undone? I’m wondering why we don’t have an anti-gravity device in our lavatory as is apparently common place in your area.
I touch my CCW gun everyday, and I don’t have NDs because I keep my “booger hook off the bang switch”. Seems pretty simple to me. Also, I handle dozens of guns every single day in my profession, and I’ve never had an ND with any of those either. So, to me, “don’t touch the gun” seems like good advice for children on the playground, not adults who will have to handle them on a regular basis as part of choosing to carry.