a great clip of Heston, but Stewart forgot to mention the result–the NRA DID “cave” in the interest of both politics and sensitivity, so if that’s his model, the mosquovites should follow suit and cancel their plans, too.
The fact that he’s willing to admit he’s wrong once he realizes it is the main reason I respect Jon Stewart, even when I disagree with him. It demonstrates honor and integrity.
It also helps that, even when he’s wrong, he’s both funny and insightful. I think debating with him would be an enjoyable experience.
It’s a good enough point, but the term “isolated incident” stuck out a bit. The comparison falls apart right there.
Muslim-inspired acts of mass murder are not isolated incidents. No one (that we know about) has killed in the name of the NRA either. So there. Nor do NRA members all over the country dance in the streets in celebration when someone commits a murder with a gun. Muslims all over the world did the dancing after 9/11. There are no real comparisons.
Bottom line is; this GZM, this so-called Islamic Center, is being built as a trophy. Doesn’t matter what we think. That’s what the Jihadists are thinking. Do I believe they should be prevented by law from doing it? Well, that’s another question altogether, isn’t it?
Yes, I too, cheer for Stewart’s recognition that he was wrong about the NRA, but with only the barest “peep” of a cheer.
Fact is, he used Heston and the NRA as a cheap shill to make his larger point that we should all bend over and “take it”,…… “it” being that accursed mosque which would be a classic Islamic “victory mosque”, built on newly conquered ground. That is, after all, where the “Cordoba” reference hails from.
Stewart drew an invalid conclusion in comparing Heston’s defense of the NRA, to the MFM’s collective apologia for the Muslim Victory Center at Ground Zero.
Here’s why:
* Of the roughly one hundred million gun owners in the U.S., nowhere…….and I mean no where can it be found in the historic literature of our sport and/or culture, that we should forcibly convert the hoplophobe, nor tax the non shooter (upon pain of death if he refuses), or otherwise lay waste to, nor in any way harm, the unarmed amongst us.
The “isolated tragedies” of which Heston spoke are indeed, tragic, and are sadly impossible to predict, and can seldom be prevented.
* Contrast this with Islam, and it’s jihad. All that I just described that the NRA does not wreak upon the non-shooter, Islam does to the non-believer. And those actions are deeply imbedded into Islam’s foundatinal texts, the Quaran, Hadith and Sura. Not only do such actions originate from their most worshipped texts, but they are also encouraged to be acted out by some of the most revered and highly sought after teachers of their faith.
This results in a predictable, (if not for time, place and actor, then surely for knowing that they’ll strike somewhere, sometime, and just as soon and often as they’re able), steady stream of atrocities of all kinds, in all places and at any time in the cosmos, including smack in the middle of thier highest, holiest days of religious observation.
Using Stewart’s logic, in which he rightly exonerates the NRA for the acts of crazed psychopaths…… one must then also rightly condemn the sect which, based on it’s own “holy books”, sends it’s most ardent adherents out to commit vile act upon perfidy upon unspeakable savagery, and calls those “holy”, and just in the eyes of their moonbat diety.
Comparing Islam in any way to Heston’s defense of the NRA is an insult to not only Heston and the NRA, but to every upstanding, American loving, gun toting (or otherwise) patriot who rallies to the cause, and defense of, the precioius God given freedoms as recognized and secured in our Bill of Rights.
Our NRA culture encourages us to be free, and to excercise the tools of that freedom.
Islam demands only submission, but that, utterly so.
That’s a pretty damned easy equation for even me to solve.
August 24th, 2010 at 9:47 am
a great clip of Heston, but Stewart forgot to mention the result–the NRA DID “cave” in the interest of both politics and sensitivity, so if that’s his model, the mosquovites should follow suit and cancel their plans, too.
August 24th, 2010 at 11:33 am
The fact that he’s willing to admit he’s wrong once he realizes it is the main reason I respect Jon Stewart, even when I disagree with him. It demonstrates honor and integrity.
It also helps that, even when he’s wrong, he’s both funny and insightful. I think debating with him would be an enjoyable experience.
August 24th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
He’s on a roll. He even apologized for calling Truman a war criminal for dropping the bomb on Japan.
Well, they half caved, but they caved as much as the law would allow, which is my understanding.
August 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Why did they go to Denver in the first place?
August 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
It’s a good enough point, but the term “isolated incident” stuck out a bit. The comparison falls apart right there.
Muslim-inspired acts of mass murder are not isolated incidents. No one (that we know about) has killed in the name of the NRA either. So there. Nor do NRA members all over the country dance in the streets in celebration when someone commits a murder with a gun. Muslims all over the world did the dancing after 9/11. There are no real comparisons.
Bottom line is; this GZM, this so-called Islamic Center, is being built as a trophy. Doesn’t matter what we think. That’s what the Jihadists are thinking. Do I believe they should be prevented by law from doing it? Well, that’s another question altogether, isn’t it?
August 25th, 2010 at 2:05 am
Unc, here’s what I left at Snowflakes in Hell:
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Yes, I too, cheer for Stewart’s recognition that he was wrong about the NRA, but with only the barest “peep” of a cheer.
Fact is, he used Heston and the NRA as a cheap shill to make his larger point that we should all bend over and “take it”,…… “it” being that accursed mosque which would be a classic Islamic “victory mosque”, built on newly conquered ground. That is, after all, where the “Cordoba” reference hails from.
Stewart drew an invalid conclusion in comparing Heston’s defense of the NRA, to the MFM’s collective apologia for the Muslim Victory Center at Ground Zero.
Here’s why:
* Of the roughly one hundred million gun owners in the U.S., nowhere…….and I mean no where can it be found in the historic literature of our sport and/or culture, that we should forcibly convert the hoplophobe, nor tax the non shooter (upon pain of death if he refuses), or otherwise lay waste to, nor in any way harm, the unarmed amongst us.
The “isolated tragedies” of which Heston spoke are indeed, tragic, and are sadly impossible to predict, and can seldom be prevented.
* Contrast this with Islam, and it’s jihad. All that I just described that the NRA does not wreak upon the non-shooter, Islam does to the non-believer. And those actions are deeply imbedded into Islam’s foundatinal texts, the Quaran, Hadith and Sura. Not only do such actions originate from their most worshipped texts, but they are also encouraged to be acted out by some of the most revered and highly sought after teachers of their faith.
This results in a predictable, (if not for time, place and actor, then surely for knowing that they’ll strike somewhere, sometime, and just as soon and often as they’re able), steady stream of atrocities of all kinds, in all places and at any time in the cosmos, including smack in the middle of thier highest, holiest days of religious observation.
Using Stewart’s logic, in which he rightly exonerates the NRA for the acts of crazed psychopaths…… one must then also rightly condemn the sect which, based on it’s own “holy books”, sends it’s most ardent adherents out to commit vile act upon perfidy upon unspeakable savagery, and calls those “holy”, and just in the eyes of their moonbat diety.
Comparing Islam in any way to Heston’s defense of the NRA is an insult to not only Heston and the NRA, but to every upstanding, American loving, gun toting (or otherwise) patriot who rallies to the cause, and defense of, the precioius God given freedoms as recognized and secured in our Bill of Rights.
Our NRA culture encourages us to be free, and to excercise the tools of that freedom.
Islam demands only submission, but that, utterly so.
That’s a pretty damned easy equation for even me to solve.
I will not submit.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX