300 AAC BlackOut
300BLK. Another 30 caliber round for the AR platform.
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September 30th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
I don’t get it, it’s 300 whisper/ 300 fireball.
September 30th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
They already have a really nice, and commonly available .30 caliber round for the AR platform.
its called .308 Winchester, and an AR-10.
September 30th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
So it’s a shortened and blown out .223 case that has – with the right bullet and seating – the same taper as 5.56 mm NATO, thereby allowing the use of existing magazines and rifle bolts.
The diff between it and 300 whisper is that the former has been submitted to SAAMI. I assume that the dimensions are very close and that one may workout as an “improved” version of the other. (i.e The .308 Ackley Improved can take regular 308, which will become “Improved” brass upon firing. A one way interchange.)
How many times have we seen the major manufactures tame a wildcat?
The other difference, If things pan out as planned, is that the laws of supply and demand might make a convincing case to have your barrel re-chambered to the new caliber. Maybe.
September 30th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
I see these cartridges as a good hunting cartridge for those states where .223 is not allowed for anything bigger than a coyote.
Given an AR-10 with spare mags and a decent scope is going to be $2000 and an upper for those will probably go for $500 the AR-10 comparision misses the point.
September 30th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Why, I was saying to the missus just last night, “What we really need is another .30 caliber round…”
October 1st, 2010 at 12:12 am
the laws of supply and demand haven’t taken either 300 whisper or 300 fireball anywhere so far.
It’s a very niche market that I don’t see improving with further crowding.
October 1st, 2010 at 12:28 am
Lost cause. The D.O.D can’t put a .30 on the AR. The Anointed One will not allow anymore money to be spent on the Military since He single handily Won the War in Iraq and Created World Peace. Why do you think He told Gates to cut $100 Billion from Defense? Funny how all that Federal MilSurp 5.56 showed up on the market in the last few weeks, isn’t it?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:34 am
What’s held those cartridges back is the lack of SAAMI standardization and major ammo and gun manufacturers behind them.
This cartridge has both.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:20 am
Not to mention 300 Whisper had trademark and licensing restrictions creating FUD which limits market expansion. See also 6.5 Grendel.
A standard 30 cal AR round using existing mags and bolts could break out of the fence. I’d like to see it do so.
October 1st, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I’m still not seeing the point ….
If you want to shoot .30 caliber rounds that match the ballistics of the 7.62×39 and retain 30rd mag capacity, then buy a rifle that natively shoots the 7.62×39 round (hint, think AK-47 pattern).
What will the 300BLK do differently than the 7.62×39 besides shoot out of a different platform?
And if the raison d’etre is to compete with the 300 Whisper, then you’re beating your head against the physics of the subsonic problem.
October 1st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
The answer is right in your question! 😉
I don’t like the AK platform (fit, finish, sights, ergonomics, manual of operations, etc.). And as a VZ58 owner who tried to go around AKs I’ve come to the conclusion that “7.62×39” and “AK-47” are pretty much equivalents in the US shooting world.
I’ve grown to like the trade offs made in the AR. So I’m looking for a mid-range caliber that doesn’t suck balistically, actually runs in AR, and takes advantage of the shelves of AR support add-ons I already have in the basement. 300BLK looks promising.