If I had my way, we wouldnt have food stamps at all. Failing that, I’d rather we hand out bread, cheese, milk, and spam. If you want to have the govt take care of you, then you should let them make all the decisions.
It really pisses me off when the lady in front of me at Subway has to put down her iPhone to find her EBT card.
How about no foodstamps and you can buy all the sugary drinks you want with your own damn money. Maybe then you’ll think about whether you actually need the 4 latest release DVDs.
Then again, I am probably considered a radical who wants to starve grandma. I don’t want to starve grandma, I just don’t think it is the government’s job to ensure grandma has food.
There’s a big difference between an entity just arbitrarily forcing its will upon people (which is, of course, what Bloomberg et al have in mind ultimately) and placing conditions on receipt of charity.
The Salvation Army does it here in Norfolk and, I presume, other places as well. They’ve got a shelter that provides housing for many indigent around here, but they will only let you stay there if you are clean and sober, attend AA or NA meetings regularly if appropriate, and are either currently working in some capacity, or are actively (and provably) seeking employment.
Don’t want to follow their rules? There a nice spot under the Campostella bridge for you.
If you actually want help, they’ll give it to you. If you’re just looking to free-load, take it someplace else.
I have the same feelings about food stamps. I don’t like the program at all…charity isn’t the government’s role…but if it’s going to exist, I think the recipients should have one of those rfi tags like they use for dogs implanted in them somewhere. Every check out counter in America should be outfitted with a detector and, if they have a chip, they should be disallowed from buying anything other than the bare necessities of life. If I’m paying for your food, you darn well better NOT be buying every new release Blue Ray movie to watch on your 50″ plasma TV.
Of course, I’m being facetious…but only because the costs of implementing such a program would be astronomical and they’d quickly find a way around it anyway. Straw purchasers and whatnot. But the sentiment is very real.
I can’t tell you how frustrating it was when I was working two jobs to make ends meet and seeing food stamp recipients trying to game the system by using $1 food stamps to buy 5 cent candies to get enough change to buy cigarettes, or at the grocery store buying new york strips and fresh caught shrimp while I was buying my hamburger and fish sticks.
That’s the problem with government being in the charity business. Charity has morphed from the needy receiving gifts for which they are grateful into claiming the “entitlements” from a faceless government with endless resources, which they see as being rightfully theirs by virtue of being capable of converting oxygen into carbon dioxide.
Completely leave aside any debate over whether soda is “good” for you or over the existence of food stamps in the first place: soda is NOT a necessity. One can whether soda is in fact harmful but what is unequivocally, beyond the merest shadow of doubt, true is that soda is not necessary to sustain human (or any other) life.
I would put a pretty low limit on the amount of “sugar” (of any type) that could be on the ingredients list of _any_ food eligible for food stamps.
As far as “universal health care limiting soda intake” for people _not_ sucking at the government teat: rule .308 will come into effect.
No problem. When I,as a teenager (1980 or so), was working in a grocery store, there wasn’t a lot you could buy w/ food stamps. Don’t know when that changed. If you want my tax dollars to feed you, you don’t get junk food. Period.
a) This is an early step towards .gov healthcare making the same decision for everybody. Government healthcare will most likely be mandatory by that point, so that part is a bad thing.
b) If you accept government money, then the .gov does have a legitimate interest in restricting what you can use that money for. Personally, I have no issue with banning the purchase of soft drinks with food stamps (it is possible to live without them), or even restricting them to staple items – flour, eggs, milk, cheese, butter, rice, meat, etc. If they want bread, they can make it themselves with items that they can buy with food stamps. I do prefer wizardpc’s idea of issuing the food directly (though I doubt that the government is capable of handling the logistics either properly or efficiently).
I can’t tell you how frustrating it was when I was working two jobs to make ends meet and seeing food stamp recipients trying to game the system by using $1 food stamps to buy 5 cent candies to get enough change to buy cigarettes, or at the grocery store buying new york strips and fresh caught shrimp while I was buying my hamburger and fish sticks.
I will never forget this, shortly after moving into my first apartment:
I am buying ramen noodles and tuna fish while the lady in front of my with the fur coat on is buying lobsters with food stamps. I buy the basics so I can pay for her lobster. How could anyone have a problem with that?
October 8th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Thats racist or something
October 8th, 2010 at 9:22 am
I’m okay with that.
If I had my way, we wouldnt have food stamps at all. Failing that, I’d rather we hand out bread, cheese, milk, and spam. If you want to have the govt take care of you, then you should let them make all the decisions.
It really pisses me off when the lady in front of me at Subway has to put down her iPhone to find her EBT card.
October 8th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Same here. Don’t like my rules? Don’t take my money.
October 8th, 2010 at 9:30 am
How about no foodstamps and you can buy all the sugary drinks you want with your own damn money. Maybe then you’ll think about whether you actually need the 4 latest release DVDs.
Then again, I am probably considered a radical who wants to starve grandma. I don’t want to starve grandma, I just don’t think it is the government’s job to ensure grandma has food.
October 8th, 2010 at 10:17 am
I don’t have a problem with this.
October 8th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Most won’t have a problem with this. Until it affects them. Like when our universal healthcare limits your soda intake.
October 8th, 2010 at 10:25 am
This.
I didn’t ask for nor do I want this. There is a big difference. But you’re right that we are heading down this path.
October 8th, 2010 at 11:40 am
There’s a big difference between an entity just arbitrarily forcing its will upon people (which is, of course, what Bloomberg et al have in mind ultimately) and placing conditions on receipt of charity.
The Salvation Army does it here in Norfolk and, I presume, other places as well. They’ve got a shelter that provides housing for many indigent around here, but they will only let you stay there if you are clean and sober, attend AA or NA meetings regularly if appropriate, and are either currently working in some capacity, or are actively (and provably) seeking employment.
Don’t want to follow their rules? There a nice spot under the Campostella bridge for you.
If you actually want help, they’ll give it to you. If you’re just looking to free-load, take it someplace else.
I have the same feelings about food stamps. I don’t like the program at all…charity isn’t the government’s role…but if it’s going to exist, I think the recipients should have one of those rfi tags like they use for dogs implanted in them somewhere. Every check out counter in America should be outfitted with a detector and, if they have a chip, they should be disallowed from buying anything other than the bare necessities of life. If I’m paying for your food, you darn well better NOT be buying every new release Blue Ray movie to watch on your 50″ plasma TV.
Of course, I’m being facetious…but only because the costs of implementing such a program would be astronomical and they’d quickly find a way around it anyway. Straw purchasers and whatnot. But the sentiment is very real.
I can’t tell you how frustrating it was when I was working two jobs to make ends meet and seeing food stamp recipients trying to game the system by using $1 food stamps to buy 5 cent candies to get enough change to buy cigarettes, or at the grocery store buying new york strips and fresh caught shrimp while I was buying my hamburger and fish sticks.
That’s the problem with government being in the charity business. Charity has morphed from the needy receiving gifts for which they are grateful into claiming the “entitlements” from a faceless government with endless resources, which they see as being rightfully theirs by virtue of being capable of converting oxygen into carbon dioxide.
But I’m not bitter or anything.
October 8th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Completely leave aside any debate over whether soda is “good” for you or over the existence of food stamps in the first place: soda is NOT a necessity. One can whether soda is in fact harmful but what is unequivocally, beyond the merest shadow of doubt, true is that soda is not necessary to sustain human (or any other) life.
I would put a pretty low limit on the amount of “sugar” (of any type) that could be on the ingredients list of _any_ food eligible for food stamps.
As far as “universal health care limiting soda intake” for people _not_ sucking at the government teat: rule .308 will come into effect.
October 8th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
No problem. When I,as a teenager (1980 or so), was working in a grocery store, there wasn’t a lot you could buy w/ food stamps. Don’t know when that changed. If you want my tax dollars to feed you, you don’t get junk food. Period.
October 8th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
a) This is an early step towards .gov healthcare making the same decision for everybody. Government healthcare will most likely be mandatory by that point, so that part is a bad thing.
b) If you accept government money, then the .gov does have a legitimate interest in restricting what you can use that money for. Personally, I have no issue with banning the purchase of soft drinks with food stamps (it is possible to live without them), or even restricting them to staple items – flour, eggs, milk, cheese, butter, rice, meat, etc. If they want bread, they can make it themselves with items that they can buy with food stamps. I do prefer wizardpc’s idea of issuing the food directly (though I doubt that the government is capable of handling the logistics either properly or efficiently).
October 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
I will never forget this, shortly after moving into my first apartment:
I am buying ramen noodles and tuna fish while the lady in front of my with the fur coat on is buying lobsters with food stamps. I buy the basics so I can pay for her lobster. How could anyone have a problem with that?
October 8th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
“If you accept government money, then the .gov does have a legitimate interest in restricting what you can use that money for.”
Too bad this philosophy goes out the window when the government receives OUR money.
October 9th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
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