The enthusiast acts at his peril
In NJ, being a responsible gun owner will land you in prison.
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November 16th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Lemme see,
1. He escapes New Jersey and then comes BACK?
2. He drives around NEW JERSEY with guns in the car and is upset that he is in prison?
But, but I printed off a summary of the law from a blog site!
November 16th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Shows that gun control is not about violence or stopping criminals. It is just for harassing lawful cooperative people who want to own guns, and maybe persuade most of them that exercising the 2nd Amendment is a bad idea.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Question: if he is breaking the law, then how is he “lawful”?
But, but I can drive around with guns in New Jersey ’cause I read it on the Internet.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I hear you SB, I’m actually speaking more on the broad sense. What exactly is the concern that he has locked, unloaded pistols in his trunk…say anymore than a folding knife or a lug wrench.
New Jersey has made even unreasonable concessions of gun handling illegal.
If this had been done in Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, or the better part of Montana the cops might say “What good do these pistols do you boy, all locked up like that?”
Of course in those places the streets are paved with blood.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Oh, I agree that New Jersey laws are inane and unconstitutional. However, claiming that “oh, I am lawful” when you are not does not get anyone anywhere.
Perhaps better to describe him as “peaceful” or “having no criminal intent”.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
How long until the Second Amendment Foundation can get around to suing New Jersey and getting some sanity in their gun laws?
Also, I’m glad my mom doesn’t call the cops on me when I seem upset. Sheesh.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Shootin Buddy, you obviously either didn’t read the linked article, or read one different than I did.
“.. Aitken also called the New Jersey State Police to get advice on how to legally transport his guns, although Burlington County Superior Court Judge James Morley didn’t allow testimony about that phone call at Aitken’s trial.”
See, the sticky part is that he did try to comply with all relevant laws, but the judge (who is now out of a job – thank you Gov Christie) wouldn’t allow that testimony.
The judge also refused to explain that particular relevant part of the law to the jury, refusing to clarify on three separate occasions.
November 16th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
“Aitken also called the New Jersey State Police to get advice on how to legally transport his guns”
Getting legal advice from cops? LOL. Even if that is relevant it shows he did everything he could not to comply with the law. Always an excuse, but I called . . . [the cops, the Red Cross, my wife’s second cousin who was a town marshal in Indiana]. They NEVER say “I called an attorney, paid money for a consultation and a memo.” It is ALWAYS “I googled on the Intertubes” or “I asked at the gun shop/bar/bowling alley.”
Calling the cops is just as bad as “I printed off THE BASIC LAW [which I learned is a German phrase that they always repeat] from a blog site, thus I’m legal and can do as I wish.” Bzzzzt, no, you can’t, do not collect $200 (which is what a consult with attorney would be), but do go to jail.
November 16th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Shootin Buddy,
Actually, it IS relevant. The website of the New Jersey State Police very quickly points you to a link for “Transportation of Firearms Into/Through New Jersey”
Damned if that little parcel of information doesn’t sound maybe a little relevant.
So here’s what the official site says about bringing firearms into New Jersey:
*Shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.
*The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle’s glove compartment or console.
Damn, but that does sound like exactly the condition that Aitken had his firearms in as he brought them into the state. Just like the official NJSP website and an officer with the NJSP told him.
But that’s not the point of Uncle’s post, or the article he linked.
The point is that, in addition to the police not following the law as described on an official state web site, the presiding judge did not allow Aitken to even bring up the fact that he complied with both the law as described on the official state website, but also the guidance of the state police.
Then, when the jury asked the judge on three separate occasions to clarify he law and it’s exemptions, the judge refused.
I blogged about this when he was sentenced, and my take on it was that the jury, when the judge refused to clarify the law, should have acquitted Aitken immediately. But they didn’t.
Now, Gov Christie has given this judge his walking papers for misconduct in other trials, and it is hoped that he will pardon Aitken for this incident.
But if you want to continue to make snarky comments like ‘he got it from a web site’ or ‘he called the cops for advice on the law … what an idiot’, you can, as far as Uncle will put up with it.