New Glock Sights?
From the rumor mill, I got an e-mail from someone about some possible new sights from Glock in 2011. The new sights are possibly a ghost-ring style sighting system with a wide aperture sight in the rear and a post up front.
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January 9th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Col. Jeff Cooper wrote about ghost ring sights in one of his Cooper’s Corner pages for Guns&Ammo magazine. He recommended them for those of us with presbyopia (inability to focus at near distances), also known as arms-too-short-to-read-print-anymore-itis.
I have a similar sight on one of my 22LR Ruger pistols, and on a GP-100. Neither are pistols I use very often, and I wanted to try the ghost ring because my eyesight is indeed fuzzy up close and getting worse.
In short, these sights work.
January 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Color my face red, and consider me corrected. Here is what Cooper wrote in 1997 regarding pistol sights:
After considerable testing and discussion, we have concluded that the proper answer for a pistolero whose eyes have begun to go is not a pistol ghost-ring, but rather a pistol express sight. The express sight, as you know, was pretty standard on the British heavy rifles of the Great Days. It consisted of a shallow “V” rear sight, mounted well forward on the barrels, in combination with an ample round bead on the front. This sight was intended for very quick use on very dangerous animals at very close range, and it served its purpose well. It was by no means a target sight, but it was a superior defensive sight.
Consider then that a pistol is intended for very quick use at very close range against very dangerous targets. The similarity is inescapable. I am not content with the pistol ghost-ring, for a number of reasons, but the pistol express sight just may be the only important development in pistol sightings in modern times.
here is what he wrote in 1993 regarding rifle sights:
Hard as it may be to believe, there are still people around who do not know about the “ghost-ring” sight. This sighting system was described in the early decades of the twentieth century by both Townsend Whelen and Karamojo Bell. It is so far superior to any form of open sight, for either snap shooting or precision work, that there is simply nothing to discuss. Yet, the manufacturers of the world have not heard about this, and they keep putting sighting systems on their rifles as issued over the counter that are little better than useless. As far as I know, there is no rifle in the world which comes from the factory to the shooter with a ghost-ring sight installed. Back in the `20s and `30s, before the public gave up on iron sights completely and went to the telescope, there were some good sights on commercial rifles. The last that I know of was the retractable aperture on the ZKK actions from Brno in Czechoslovakia. Those have not been available now for at least fifteen years.
It is certainly true that the telescope sight in its various forms is a superior system for most field rifle shooting, but telescopes break and a truly serviceable rifle should be equipped with a set of iron sights which will do the job in the event of glass breakage. This, of course, points to the ghost-ring, but as of now you will have to make it up yourself.
January 9th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
No ghost rings for me, I have a hard enough time hitting the living!!! (LOL).
January 10th, 2011 at 3:24 am
Glock seems intent on progressively F’ing up the Glock.
Seriously, it’s not my favorite platform, but the 3d gen Glock was about as bulletproof (pardon the pun) a pistol design as we’ve seen. A definitive product.
I don’t like the 4th gens as much as the G3, and suspect I’ll like this gen (4.1?) even less.
January 10th, 2011 at 6:17 am
About 12 years ago I put an Aero-Tek ghost ring on my IPSC-dedicated P-14, and am not displeased with it. It’s much faster than traditional iron sights, not as fast as a red dot (and has the advantage of not being a “class bumper” because it’s metallic). For close work (40 – 60 yards) it comes up short – attempting to compensate for drop by “getting more front sight” the top of the ghost ring interferes with seeing exactly where the top of the front post is. Fortunately, it’s an extremely rare IPSC stage that’s deeper than 35 yards. I’ve wondered from time to time if a modified ghost ring, say, a 300 degree circle with a gap at the top which would allow more precision with the front post at longer distance, might be a worthwhile improvement. Then again, I’m hard pressed to envision a need for all that many 100 yard shots with a 1911-format IPSC or self defense gun.
All that said, I have neither taken it off the P-14, nor modified it, and have I not ordered any more for my other guns. I’m not sure what wizardry Glock can bring to bear on ghost rings, but it”ll be interesting to see what they come up with.
January 10th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Not sure what happened to my comment above, but “close work” above should have said “60 yards.”
January 10th, 2011 at 6:22 am
well, that didn’t work either. Close work= less than 25 yards, and 40-60 yards should be “greater than 60 yards”. It might be my use of the greater then/less than signs that’s being interpreted by Unc’s page as XML tags.