Depends on the nature of the safe storage law. A small steel gun cabinet for long guns costs around $100. A decent lockbox that can hold a pistol is more like $60. Cheap to free cable locks can turn your gun into paperweights.
And honestly if the gun isn’t at hand, it ought to be secured somehow lest you arm your potential assailant.
@Jeff: Remember that what the anti’s are after is to price people out of the self defense market. That’s why they are always going on about “junk” guns and storage laws. They want you to have so much hassle that you’ll just not own a gun.
A lockbox, or even a long-gun storage safe, can be “easily” removed by one or two thieves.
So, I should have a wall or floor safe bolted to structural support that can’t be “easily” moved? Yeah, I’m sure my landlord would agree, and if I move would not charge me for repairs.
Using our new tactic of emphasizing the civil rights aspects of the Second Amendment, this is a very good point to keep in mind, since will little extension, “safe-storage” and their companion, “gun insurance” laws discriminate heavily against the poor, and particularly, poor minorities.
Imagine yourself as a head of family with a low-paying job. You are a person of color, and you live in a bad part of town. You can barely afford the cheapest shotgun to protect you from your gang-banger neighbors. Now the City comes along and says that you must have a safe to lock up that shotgun in. Being poor, the first thing that pisses you off is that you can’t afford a safe, and just behind that comes the notion of figuring out just how you are going to get those three bangers who just kicked in your door to wait while you get that locked door to the safe open.
Yep, I’m going to add this to my “new Jim Crow” file.
Heh, I have all that, plus video surveillance. Do I get a cookie? There’s been some noise about gun control laws originally being racist, but classist would probably be more apropos. Knowing libtards, it doesn’t surprise me either way. Dunno how those assholes ever came to be thought of as the friends of either the minority or the poor. Of course, you could say, they love the poor so much they want to make more of them.
Gut an old refrigerator. Two Hasps, Two Locks w/same key. Bolt to floor. Stuff with firearms and ammo. Tell the City to go sd89dff88%$^%*&& and the Horse they rode in on.
@Mr. Evilwrench: That’s a fair assessment. If you get a chance, read “Rise of the Anti-Media: In-forming America’s Concealed Weapon Carry Movement” by Brian Anse Patrick. He goes to some length to describe the racism and classism involved in current and historical gun control. I can’t recommend the book enough. If you don’t want to buy it, ask your local library to get it via Interlibrary Loan.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Depends on the nature of the safe storage law. A small steel gun cabinet for long guns costs around $100. A decent lockbox that can hold a pistol is more like $60. Cheap to free cable locks can turn your gun into paperweights.
And honestly if the gun isn’t at hand, it ought to be secured somehow lest you arm your potential assailant.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Jeff, agreed. But not by law. It is not their role.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I’ve said it before, that if Govt requires you to lock it up then they should pay for you to have the means to do so.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Thanks for the link!
@Jeff: Remember that what the anti’s are after is to price people out of the self defense market. That’s why they are always going on about “junk” guns and storage laws. They want you to have so much hassle that you’ll just not own a gun.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
A lockbox, or even a long-gun storage safe, can be “easily” removed by one or two thieves.
So, I should have a wall or floor safe bolted to structural support that can’t be “easily” moved? Yeah, I’m sure my landlord would agree, and if I move would not charge me for repairs.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Using our new tactic of emphasizing the civil rights aspects of the Second Amendment, this is a very good point to keep in mind, since will little extension, “safe-storage” and their companion, “gun insurance” laws discriminate heavily against the poor, and particularly, poor minorities.
Imagine yourself as a head of family with a low-paying job. You are a person of color, and you live in a bad part of town. You can barely afford the cheapest shotgun to protect you from your gang-banger neighbors. Now the City comes along and says that you must have a safe to lock up that shotgun in. Being poor, the first thing that pisses you off is that you can’t afford a safe, and just behind that comes the notion of figuring out just how you are going to get those three bangers who just kicked in your door to wait while you get that locked door to the safe open.
Yep, I’m going to add this to my “new Jim Crow” file.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Heh, I have all that, plus video surveillance. Do I get a cookie? There’s been some noise about gun control laws originally being racist, but classist would probably be more apropos. Knowing libtards, it doesn’t surprise me either way. Dunno how those assholes ever came to be thought of as the friends of either the minority or the poor. Of course, you could say, they love the poor so much they want to make more of them.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Gut an old refrigerator. Two Hasps, Two Locks w/same key. Bolt to floor. Stuff with firearms and ammo. Tell the City to go sd89dff88%$^%*&& and the Horse they rode in on.
February 7th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
@Mr. Evilwrench: That’s a fair assessment. If you get a chance, read “Rise of the Anti-Media: In-forming America’s Concealed Weapon Carry Movement” by Brian Anse Patrick. He goes to some length to describe the racism and classism involved in current and historical gun control. I can’t recommend the book enough. If you don’t want to buy it, ask your local library to get it via Interlibrary Loan.