Guns on campus
At Truman State U., students can check their guns at the Department of Public Safety. Then, when they want them, they show ID and get a quick background check to check their gun out.
No thanks.
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March 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
As awful as this is, it’s better then when I went to school. We weren’t to have any weapons on campus and the University did things like “Blind Checks” or “Heating system inspections” of all the dorm rooms looking for contraband. My roommate ended up kicked out of the dorms for having a 4 inch buck knife.
This *may* be a sign we’re winning albeit slowly.
March 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am
So do the cops in this department get background checks each time they leave their guns in the lockers?
March 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
I don’t know what kind of “background check” they are doing but if it includes a NCIC check it’s probably a federal violation.
March 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Aside from the background check this is pretty common in my experience.
I’m sorta torn on it, as going to a particular college isn’t a ‘right’ and neither is living in school-owned on-campus housing.
Don’t like the policy? Go somewhere else or put on your big boy pants and live off campus. Insisting on more is bitching about convenience, not rights.
Dorm possession is different issue than campus carry.
March 18th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Having just left the College Scene, this is where it gets into the Gray Zone. Yes, no one says you have to go to College, (unless you are in the Military and are leaving the Enlisted Ranks and doing a 4 year ROTC Program). But if you are a Civilian, our State-Funded Schools are now starting to REQUIRE that ALL Single FreshPersons (P.C., remember?) MUST live in the Dorms, unless you are over the age of 21. Yet, even thought that Dorm Room is your Legal Residence (and yes, the local Board of Elections had to set up a Special Precinct on Campus to ensure that “No College Student was Deprived of Their Right to Vote for the Democratic Party)”, is your Legal Residence, and all Law-Abiding Citizens above the age of 18 have the RKBA, you are Banned from having them in your dorm. Several Lawsuits have been filed, but the schools usually drag them out until you are past the minimum time spent in the Dorms, and the Judge usually declares the cases “Moot” if it ever reaches their benches. But it’s OK to engage in any ILLEGAL Activities that 18-21 years old can do, as long as there is no Felony CONVICTION handed down. Needless to say, the State House needs to make some changes up here.
March 18th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Yeah, if a state school requires you to live on campus that does change things, if you can’t “opt out” of the housing policy then a “government” school shouldn’t be allowed to dictate residence gun rules of adult college students any more than the same state government can dictate to other adult state residents in their own private residences.
Though you still aren’t required to go to a state school that has such a policy. If college is your goal, even with ROTC, you can choose a private school, or non-res at a school with policies more to your liking.
Obviously I’d rather the schools just get a clue and treat adults like adults.
We shouldn’t ignore that there is a real issue when you are forced to room with strangers, the level of individual responsibility in securing the weapon when it isn’t in your personal possession hits the red line in such situations.
March 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I went to Truman State, and also was an editor for The Index, the paper you cited there.
I can assure you that there isn’t any background check. They just look at your ID and then give you your gun. This is a good alternative to not being able to keep one at all. But undoubtedly less good than expanded rights on college campuses.
Almost everyone I knew who lived on campus stored their gun with someone who lived off, or in the trunk of their car.
Also keep in mind that you’re required to live on campus the first year.
March 19th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
If its a public institution they have no authority to keep a person who otherwise lawfully owns a gun from possesing it in their dorm room.
March 19th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Thank the Lord the muggers and rapists give them the time to go back and check out their legal weapons when they need them.
Because if they didn’t, they might get raped or mugged. Glad Truman SU is looking out for their students welfare.
My opinion, multiple NCIC checks don’t pass my smell test. I bet that not one student passes this so called test.
March 19th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Nathan Says:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Nathan, read the 2nd Amendment. And if that don’t work, Heller and McDonald. Screw public universities. They have to follow the laws of the land.
Please correct me if I am worng headed.